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I don't want AI agents controlling my laptop

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Re: I don't want AI agents controlling my laptop

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Post by pessimizer »

dankwizard wrote: post #4

I do, it's called embracing the future - Either get with it or get out of the game. If you aren't giving your AI untethered sudo access then honestly its more of a reflection on you and your inability to accept change in the workplace.

It's even worse: it's a sign of insecurity and the lack of the ability to just trust and let go of control. Often related to malignant narcissism. I recommend SSRIs and inpatient therapy. You should probably give up custody of your children, too, unless you want them to grow up with the same weaknesses.

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Post by saagarjha »

thomasdziedzic wrote: post #9
LtWorf wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty sure he's sarcastic.

What makes you pretty sure he's sarcastic?

I mean it's possibly Poe's Law but this is the amalgamated rhetoric of the most crazy people pushing this kind of thing

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Post by throwmeaway222 »

grugagag wrote: post #5
dankwizard wrote: post #4

I do, it's called embracing the future - Either get with it or get out of the game. If you aren't giving your AI untethered sudo access then honestly its more of a reflection on you and your inability to accept change in the workplace.

Yeah, relinquish all control because .. embracing the future.

we already have - every time you get in a car you're elevating the chance of death considerably from before you hopped in. (seriously it's like 1000000x more dangerous than just sitting on a sofa)

Granted it's a low chance, but it's also similarly low that your bank account will be drained to zero because you codex --yolo'd it. If that DOES happen to someone then yeah, I'd consider changing my behavior.

For example there's no fucking way I would FSD in a Tesla.

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Post by spaceman_2020 »

I don’t understand the author’s complaint - are the AI agents forcibly installing themselves on your computer? Are they shipping these agents without settings to change permission seeking behavior?

This is just a rant about something you absolutely don’t have to do

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Post by resonious »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #14

I don’t understand the author’s complaint - are the AI agents forcibly installing themselves on your computer? Are they shipping these agents without settings to change permission seeking behavior? This is just a rant about something you absolutely don’t have to do

Windows is heading in that direction.

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Post by akomtu »

dankwizard wrote: post #4

I do, it's called embracing the future - Either get with it or get out of the game. If you aren't giving your AI untethered sudo access then honestly its more of a reflection on you and your inability to accept change in the workplace.

I can imagine the same conversation 10 years later: "The productivity boost of AI implants is obvious by now, it gives at least +50 IQ points. Those stubborn employees should just yield and grant full control to their brains if they want to stay relevant."

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Post by evgpbfhnr »

bwrap.

I don't run AI, but anything I don't fully trust 200% runs without access to my home, and if it doesn't really need internet without internet either. bwrap commands can be a mouthful so I suggest making a script for things you commonly do, e.g. "run with this directory as $HOME" or "run with empty home, keeping just this directory as is", with a couple of flags to enable networking or wayland/sound... Once you have this there really is no benefit to not sandboxing. It's probably not as good as running in a full VM, but it's good enough for me.

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Post by throwmeaway222 »

I think we're at 3rd wave AI and it's got a RPM of maybe 20-40. In a year or two we'll be at 900 RPM and having the user give permissions won't really be feasible. So perhaps a secondary AI prompt will "validate" the request for you - we're only going in this direction.

Sure, comment on the time we're at, but it won't be relevant for a while.

Re: I don't want AI agents controlling my laptop

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Post by yupyupyups »

LudwigNagasena wrote: post #10

I want AI agents controlling my laptop. And not only AI. There are lots of cool software programs I want on my laptop besides AI too. The problem is not AI, the problem is the awful security model that is the foundation of all modern operating systems.

I think most people would find automatic feeding of arbitrary private information from their devices to an external server to be problematic.

If the AI is running offline and is non-destructive/safe then that's a different story.

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