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Navy SEALs reportedly killed North Korean fishermen to hide a failed mission
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Re: Navy SEALs reportedly killed North Korean fishermen to hide a failed mission
#12If you can stomach the bravado and unclear factual accuracy, the 2007 book Lone Survivor gives an account of a similar failure, in Afghanistan, where a SEAL team was discovered early in their mission. But, it devolved into a running battle and a disaster for the US special forces where most of the team and many rescuers also died. As a result of those prior events, I can imagine they have different rules of engagemen…
The public should be hearing about these failures when they involve an almost entirely opaque nuclear-armed state having their sovereignty violated.
It appears that people involved in the operation feel the same. The stakes in a failure like this are far higher than most SOC missions.
Re: Navy SEALs reportedly killed North Korean fishermen to hide a failed mission
#13>They found no guns or uniforms. Evidence suggested that the crew, which people briefed on the mission said numbered two or three people, had been civilians diving for shellfish. All were dead, including the man in the water. Officials familiar with the mission said the SEALs pulled the bodies into the water to hide them from the North Korean authorities. One added that the SEALs punctured the boat crew’s lungs with…
That has basically been the entire point of the US military since the end of the Cold War (and before that too, but you could argue there was a better reason back then)
Re: Navy SEALs reportedly killed North Korean fishermen to hide a failed mission
#14>They found no guns or uniforms. Evidence suggested that the crew, which people briefed on the mission said numbered two or three people, had been civilians diving for shellfish. All were dead, including the man in the water. Officials familiar with the mission said the SEALs pulled the bodies into the water to hide them from the North Korean authorities. One added that the SEALs punctured the boat crew’s lungs with…
Sounds like SEALs all right.
Re: Navy SEALs reportedly killed North Korean fishermen to hide a failed mission
#15> The plan called for the Navy to sneak a nuclear-powered submarine, nearly two football fields long, into the waters... then deploy a small team of SEALs in two mini-subs, each about the size of a killer whales..
What? What is with these measurements?
Re: Navy SEALs reportedly killed North Korean fishermen to hide a failed mission
#16If you can stomach the bravado and unclear factual accuracy, the 2007 book Lone Survivor gives an account of a similar failure, in Afghanistan, where a SEAL team was discovered early in their mission. But, it devolved into a running battle and a disaster for the US special forces where most of the team and many rescuers also died. As a result of those prior events, I can imagine they have different rules of engagemen…
The Lone Survivor story is pure propaganda and mostly inaccurate. You can easily look this up. That entire operation was a F up from the beginning, and had nothing to do with being discovered early.
It created proper propaganda fuel though, so mission partially accomplished I suppose.
Re: Navy SEALs reportedly killed North Korean fishermen to hide a failed mission
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Re: Navy SEALs reportedly killed North Korean fishermen to hide a failed mission
#18>They found no guns or uniforms. Evidence suggested that the crew, which people briefed on the mission said numbered two or three people, had been civilians diving for shellfish. All were dead, including the man in the water. Officials familiar with the mission said the SEALs pulled the bodies into the water to hide them from the North Korean authorities. One added that the SEALs punctured the boat crew’s lungs with…
Reminds me of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_abductions_of_Jap... where NK would send raiding parties to Japan, supposedly finally ended in the eighties.
Re: Navy SEALs reportedly killed North Korean fishermen to hide a failed mission
#19> The plan called for the Navy to sneak a nuclear-powered submarine, nearly two football fields long, into the waters... then deploy a small team of SEALs in two mini-subs, each about the size of a killer whales.. What? What is with these measurements?
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Re: Navy SEALs reportedly killed North Korean fishermen to hide a failed mission
#20"A North Korean boat appeared out of the dark. Flashlights from the bow swept over the water. Fearing that they had been spotted, the SEALs opened fire. Within seconds, everyone on the North Korean boat was dead."
Seeing as how this was right where this entire mission turned into a lethal clusterfuck, you'd think rigorously trained, carefully coordinated and disciplined SEALs would just try the incredibly sophisticated tactic of.... just, you know, holding their fire a few minutes to first see if the boat knew about them or had anything to do with their mission. They must have known that random people can appear for reasons of their own, without necessarily being a sign of discovery, and then just wait and see if they can resume ops soon after the intruder leaves.
Even your average career burglar knows better than to panic at the first sight of an unforeseen individual arriving at some scene they're working for a theft.