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Google is killing first and second gen Nest Thermostats

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Re: Google is killing first and second gen Nest Thermostats

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Post by Fezzik »

protimewaster wrote: post #5
ElijahLynn wrote: post #4

Damn... And also, > We’ll reach out to eligible users in the US and Canada for the Nest Learning Thermostat (4th gen) at a special price: $149.99 [219.99 CAD] (nearly 50% off). However, we got a Nest from the Oregon Energy trust for $50 I think. So, not a great price.

This kind of thing drives me crazy, and I think it helps to highlight some of the money-grubbing nature of the tech industry. Years ago, you'd buy a cheap thermostat and it'd last 30 years or whatever. But the tech industry had to improve that by instead making them last less than half as long and cost substantially more. I understand the idea that smart stuff is cool or whatever, but it feels like it'd be smarter if…

Those same bulletproof thermostats are still sold everywhere. And are dirt cheap. I blame the consumer more than the producer for the proliferation of these products. This is one area where your options were never limited and you’d have to be a dunce and/or been paying zero attention to how tech companies have operated for decades to think these devices were not going to be made useless at a regular rate.

Re: Google is killing first and second gen Nest Thermostats

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Post by mentalpiracy »

ElijahLynn wrote: post #4

Damn... And also, > We’ll reach out to eligible users in the US and Canada for the Nest Learning Thermostat (4th gen) at a special price: $149.99 [219.99 CAD] (nearly 50% off). However, we got a Nest from the Oregon Energy trust for $50 I think. So, not a great price.

Telling me that you’ve unilaterally decided to lobotomize a product I already paid you for, and then thinking that I’d like the privilege of purchasing additional goods from you - even at a discount - is certainly something.

Gotta juice those numbers before moving on to the next role.

Re: Google is killing first and second gen Nest Thermostats

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Post by AtlasBarfed »

danielscrubs wrote: post #12

I question how good the engineers are if it costs so much to keep those services running. I guess the only way out is to vote with your wallet. YouTube and Gmail are the only Google services left in my life.

Tell everyone homeowner you ever meet when talking about homes or real estate about how bad IoT is.

Destroy the market until they do better.

Re: Google is killing first and second gen Nest Thermostats

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Post by msgodel »

ravenstine wrote: post #6

I am never connecting a thermostat to the internet or using one that strictly requires the internet.

I love the idea of an internet connected thermostat running an open source micropython environment.

No one outside of HongKong ever seems to want to sell devices like that though. I don't know if it's a culture thing or what.

Re: Google is killing first and second gen Nest Thermostats

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Post by stahtops »

AtlasBarfed wrote: post #16
danielscrubs wrote: post #12

I question how good the engineers are if it costs so much to keep those services running. I guess the only way out is to vote with your wallet. YouTube and Gmail are the only Google services left in my life.

Tell everyone homeowner you ever meet when talking about homes or real estate about how bad IoT is. Destroy the market until they do better.

Actually it’s very convenient to have control of the thermostat remotely.

The lesson here (once again) is just: don’t buy hardware from Google

Re: Google is killing first and second gen Nest Thermostats

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Post by staticman2 »

So it looks like these models are over 10 years old

I'm not trying to be a shill for a trillion dollar company but I'd probably put up with the annoyance of swapping the thermostat once every 10+ years over switching to a different company if I was happy with it.

Re: Google is killing first and second gen Nest Thermostats

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Post by gregors »

staticman2 wrote: post #19

So it looks like these models are over 10 years old I'm not trying to be a shill for a trillion dollar company but I'd probably put up with the annoyance of swapping the thermostat once every 10+ years over switching to a different company if I was happy with it.

If I pay for something and you don't tell me upfront on the box that it only supported until a certain date in big bold letters (like smoke detectors do). I'm never going to buy a product from you again.
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