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4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

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Ofcom can fine 4chan all it wants, but without UK assets those penalties are unenforceable, they have no power here. This is why the US dropped tea into Boston to have it's own Freedom.

> This is why the US dropped tea into Boston to have it's own Freedom. the 3% tariff on Chinese tea was seen as oppressive don't look at what has been imposed this year (without congressional approval)

The tariff was oppressive in large part because the colonies didn't have representation in Parliament and were allowed limited (and decreasing) local governance. The Stamp, Townshend and Intolerable Acts were a whole lot more than just "we don't wanna pay taxes".

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>If Ofcom doesn't think this will be enough to prevent significant harm, it can even ask that ISPs be ordered to block UK access. Well again I guess the UK never heard of VPNs, but they are trying to ban them still, it is like these pols have no clue how the internet works. They never learn these actions are like playing wack-a-mole.

It feels more like a modern version of Luddites where they probably do understand very well how it works and they fear what that means for their own success.

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>If Ofcom doesn't think this will be enough to prevent significant harm, it can even ask that ISPs be ordered to block UK access. Well again I guess the UK never heard of VPNs, but they are trying to ban them still, it is like these pols have no clue how the internet works. They never learn these actions are like playing wack-a-mole.

VPNs are next: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn438z3ejxyo

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>If Ofcom doesn't think this will be enough to prevent significant harm, it can even ask that ISPs be ordered to block UK access. Well again I guess the UK never heard of VPNs, but they are trying to ban them still, it is like these pols have no clue how the internet works. They never learn these actions are like playing wack-a-mole.

> I guess the UK never heard of VPNs

Wanna bet that when they finally hear of them, they'll try to ban them (and mentions of VPNs, too)?

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>If Ofcom doesn't think this will be enough to prevent significant harm, it can even ask that ISPs be ordered to block UK access. Well again I guess the UK never heard of VPNs, but they are trying to ban them still, it is like these pols have no clue how the internet works. They never learn these actions are like playing wack-a-mole.

VPNs are next: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn438z3ejxyo

So they're lagging about 3-4 years behind the Russian practices, but steadily catching up. Quite impressive!

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Ofcom can fine 4chan all it wants, but without UK assets those penalties are unenforceable, they have no power here. This is why the US dropped tea into Boston to have it's own Freedom.

> This is why the US dropped tea into Boston to have it's own Freedom. the 3% tariff on Chinese tea was seen as oppressive don't look at what has been imposed this year (without congressional approval)

The precipitating event behind the Boston Tea Party was actually a reduction in taxation that made it possible for the East India Company to undercut both official colonial tea importers and also American tea smugglers.

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> Two days later, US Federal Trade Commission chairman Andrew Ferguson warned big tech firms they could be violating US law if they weakened privacy and data security requirements by complying with international laws such as the Online Safety Act. How will this work with chat control? > "If Ofcom doesn't think this will be enough to prevent significant harm, it can even ask that ISPs be ordered to block UK access." I…

> How will this work with chat control? There is no POC for a chat control E2E-compliant chat app and there will never be. this will just kill EU made software because they will be forced to comply, while US software will use real E2E as marketing.

The UK isn’t part of the EU anymore. As I understand it, this doesn’t apply to the broader group.
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