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Silicon Valley Is Panicking About Zohran Mamdani. NYC's Tech Scene Is Not

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Re: Silicon Valley Is Panicking About Zohran Mamdani. NYC's Tech Scene Is Not

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> Silicon Valley In this case, does that mean something more like "an exclusive clique of lucky tech-bros that converge on political views in their private channels"? As a larger region/industry, I can't see why SV would "panic" about a city mayor of a different city in another state thousands of miles away, no matter how populous the city is.

Its just a bunch of people that see "socialist" and panic.

they dont even know what it means, its just the big scary word.

Re: Silicon Valley Is Panicking About Zohran Mamdani. NYC's Tech Scene Is Not

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I think that this is actually separate classes of people. This article is using "silicon valley" to talk about a small (but very influential) group of very wealthy investor types, and "new york tech scene" to mostly talk about NYC founders and not investors. Plenty of finance guys in NYC are very upset about Mamdani's primary win.

I'm a silicon valley founder but definitely not investor and I'm quite optimistic about Mamdani's approach to measuring where problems are and then pitch complicated fixes in a way that can be understood by average voters. The "socialism" label doesn't bother me. I know a lot of people in silicon valley rank and file engineers and technical founders who think similarly privately.

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It's a funny ideology that's like "We're going to end scarcity and implement UBI, but also, be scared of socialism."

A more honest way of writing this might be ”we’re going to test UBI because it’s untested, but Mamdani is scary bc rent control has been shown over and over again to be bad for cities.”

rent control is a huge part of New York City, and has been around for ages. Hasn't been so bad for it, last I checked city is still doing pretty good.

Re: Silicon Valley Is Panicking About Zohran Mamdani. NYC's Tech Scene Is Not

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> Silicon Valley In this case, does that mean something more like "an exclusive clique of lucky tech-bros that converge on political views in their private channels"? As a larger region/industry, I can't see why SV would "panic" about a city mayor of a different city in another state thousands of miles away, no matter how populous the city is.

I imagine that is indeed what it means. It's probably like using "Washington" to describe the higher-ups in the US government. It doesn't really refer to the ordinary people who live there.

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It's a funny ideology that's like "We're going to end scarcity and implement UBI, but also, be scared of socialism."

Ending scarcity and funding UBI is uniquely possible in a capitalist society, where there is excess wealth generation. In the UK we use our capitalist excess wealth to fund socialised healthcare.

But don't mistake socialised service provision for socialism

Socialism implies state control of the means of production.

The results of socialism, we witnessed in Eastern Europe and elsewhere during the 20th century: scarcity of goods and services

Eventually a socialist state runs out of private wealth to seize, and it becomes completely corrupt and totalitarian due to its monopoly over the means of production. And then the people rise up and demand a the restoration of a free society where people can own the fruits of their labour.

Re: Silicon Valley Is Panicking About Zohran Mamdani. NYC's Tech Scene Is Not

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It's a funny ideology that's like "We're going to end scarcity and implement UBI, but also, be scared of socialism."

A more honest way of writing this might be ”we’re going to test UBI because it’s untested, but Mamdani is scary bc rent control has been shown over and over again to be bad for cities.”

I don't think that Silicon Valley's / NY Tech's primary concern about Mamdani is rent control. You think NY Tech CEO's are pro rent control for a reason Silicon Valley CEO's aren't?

Re: Silicon Valley Is Panicking About Zohran Mamdani. NYC's Tech Scene Is Not

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It's a funny ideology that's like "We're going to end scarcity and implement UBI, but also, be scared of socialism."

> We're going to end scarcity and implement UBI,

I don't think that I've ever heard anyone in SV, at least not anyone with any real power, honestly suggest that. They don't want to pay people more than they absolutely have to now, and that's with most labor being done by humans. When humans stop being the engine of economic growth, why would those people suddenly want to implement UBI and end scarcity?

It's a fugazi meant to make you think that the people doing things have considered all of the angles, but they haven't.

Re: Silicon Valley Is Panicking About Zohran Mamdani. NYC's Tech Scene Is Not

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It's a funny ideology that's like "We're going to end scarcity and implement UBI, but also, be scared of socialism."

A more honest way of writing this might be ”we’re going to test UBI because it’s untested, but Mamdani is scary bc rent control has been shown over and over again to be bad for cities.”

I think you're right that this is what people believe. But as far as I've been able to tell, Mamdani's platform does not include anything about rent control.

The closest position he's advocating for is to freeze the rent stabilization rate for 5 years while massively ramping up the construction of new apartments to bring rental costs down.

Much of the pushback about Mamdani seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding of the difference betwene "rent control" and "rent stabilization". I think it's extremely rare to see a politician understand the supply/demand aspect of housing costs so well. He really seems to understand these dynamics, certainly better than anyone he's running against.

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