Nearly all of this is false news. Virtually all browser-focused companies have had layoffs, but none of them have crippled Firefox. Indeed Firefox has the Zen project to thank for leading the way to a safer post-Chrome-is-for-sale world on PCs. Hopefully a similar project will arise for phones and for an even safer Deno framework.
Mozilla Firefox Is Dying
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#12I don’t know a single person outside of online tech communities like HN that still uses Firefox. Virtually none of my non-tech friends know what Firefox even is.
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#13Firefox has been my browser since its first beta 20-something years ago, and I don't see anything replacing it. It has by far the best addons and tab management. Chrome, after all these years, doesn't even offer vertical tabs, and its extensions API keeps getting more restrictive.
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#14I don’t know a single person outside of online tech communities like HN that still uses Firefox. Virtually none of my non-tech friends know what Firefox even is.
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#15I don’t know a single person outside of online tech communities like HN that still uses Firefox. Virtually none of my non-tech friends know what Firefox even is.
You should tell them.
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#16Firefox's death is a leadership issue.
It's still a solid browser and could be resuscitated, but you'd have to immediately remove the Mozilla leadership and change it's culture.
My hope is that Firefox viably carries on as an OSS project away from the control of an organization whose CEO gets paid $6.9 million annually while engineering continually gets cut.
Firefox can't survive with Mozilla at the helm.
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#17> how long before the total collapse? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope I've still to see a site where Firefox is not supported. uBlock origin still works well with Firefox. When I start having issues with those, I'll start looking for a replacement. Hopefully Ladybird Browser will be out by then.
> Hopefully Ladybird Browser will be out by then.
Right now LB is incredibly slow and will be slow for a long time. Most of the cost of browser engines isn't implementing the code but optimizing it; thousands of PhD hours are poured into optimizing 1 JS function.
I've been using LB every day for about 2 months now.
Related to the article, I think FF is not dead; they have servo that is developing fast and will be incredibly fast and responsive. FF isn't going anywhere. They just accumulated a lot of technical debt and will be leaner once servo is out.
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#18> how long before the total collapse? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope I've still to see a site where Firefox is not supported. uBlock origin still works well with Firefox. When I start having issues with those, I'll start looking for a replacement. Hopefully Ladybird Browser will be out by then.
> Hopefully Ladybird Browser will be out by then. Right now LB is incredibly slow and will be slow for a long time. Most of the cost of browser engines isn't implementing the code but optimizing it; thousands of PhD hours are poured into optimizing 1 JS function. I've been using LB every day for about 2 months now. Related to the article, I think FF is not dead; they have servo that is developing fast and will be inc…
you do not need the thousand phd hours (?) to have a usable browser. Ladybird on X very frequently shows stuff working just fine and getting better every week. Lets have some faith.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Hopefully Ladybird Browser will be out by then. Right now LB is incredibly slow and will be slow for a long time. Most of the cost of browser engines isn't implementing the code but optimizing it; thousands of PhD hours are poured into optimizing 1 JS function. I've been using LB every day for about 2 months now. Related to the article, I think FF is not dead; they have servo that is developing fast and will be inc…
you do not need the thousand phd hours (?) to have a usable browser. Ladybird on X very frequently shows stuff working just fine and getting better every week. Lets have some faith.
i would argue that _you do_ every millisecond you save is multiplied by the millions ( or billions) of users that use your product. The web browser is the most important tool in the 21st century; nothing comes close.
But it is true that we will inspire ourselves with techniques and methods used and implemented to optimize each subset of the engine build and build on the shoulders of giants.
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#20LibreWolf, and Firefox Nightly are the only browsers that I use.
I have hope for servo and Ladybird.
I refuse to go anywhere near Chromium and all it's derivatives.
The batteries are long dead on the devices that ran Safari.