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Investigation into 4chan and its compliance with duties to protect its users

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Re: Investigation into 4chan and its compliance with duties to protect its users

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Post by Barbing »

rahidz wrote: post #2

4chan's response (through lawyers): https://x.com/prestonjbyrne/status/1956391746029428914 Full text: "BYRNE & STORM, P.C. ATTORNEYS-AT-LAW Re: Statement Regarding Ofcom's Reported Provisional Notice - 4chan Community Support LLC Byrne & Storm, P.C. ( @ByrneStorm ) and Coleman Law, P.C. ( @RonColeman ) represent 4chan Community Support LLC ("4chan"). According to press reports, the U.K. Office of Communications ("Ofc…

Thanks - so instead they’ll be sued by someone under those new US state laws that cover sites featuring some % of adult content?

(There was a worrisome blog post someone shared here on HN a few weeks ago.)

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Post by rr808 »

userbinator wrote: post #10
rr808 wrote: post #6

USA is all about free speech because the big tech companies are in USA and behind closed doors do what the US Government tells them. If Meta/Google/Twitter/TikTok were foreign companies they'd likely be banned or regulated to be allowed to operate here.

TikTok? I know there's a fight going on with it but I believe it's still Chinese owned.

Its partially owned by ByteDance but a separate entity with majority US investors. https://usds.tiktok.com/usds-myths-vs-facts

> TikTok Inc., which offers the TikTok app in the United States, is incorporated in California and Delaware, and is subject to U.S. laws and regulations governing privacy and data security.

Re: Investigation into 4chan and its compliance with duties to protect its users

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Post by daft_pink »

ranger_danger wrote: post #4

Why do they think that organizations who operate completely outside of the UK, accept no money from UK citizens or otherwise do business there, fall within their jurisdiction? I think realistically all that could happen is they tell ISPs to block it.

Maybe they will say British citizens use it in foreign countries as their loophole. I don’t agree with it and I’m not a lawyer but I’m just predicting their argument.

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Post by nubinetwork »

Retr0id wrote: post #5
ranger_danger wrote: post #4

Why do they think that organizations who operate completely outside of the UK, accept no money from UK citizens or otherwise do business there, fall within their jurisdiction? I think realistically all that could happen is they tell ISPs to block it.

> they tell ISPs to block it Seems likely. And then that won't work, and they'll tell ISPs to block VPN traffic too.

I wouldn't put it past them, they've already ran tv news pieces (or maybe it was an ad, I don't watch tv, let alone British tv) basically saying that if you use a VPN, that you're not thinking of the children.

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Post by aredox »

daft_pink wrote: post #8
rr808 wrote: post #6

USA is all about free speech because the big tech companies are in USA and behind closed doors do what the US Government tells them. If Meta/Google/Twitter/TikTok were foreign companies they'd likely be banned or regulated to be allowed to operate here.

Pretty sure the USA position has to do with the us constitution. Just saying

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Post by ben_w »

ranger_danger wrote: post #4

Why do they think that organizations who operate completely outside of the UK, accept no money from UK citizens or otherwise do business there, fall within their jurisdiction? I think realistically all that could happen is they tell ISPs to block it.

> or otherwise do business

If they can be used in the UK, then the same general principle applies here as with pirate radio and over-the-horizon artillery.

The attempt is unlikely to work, but with Trump who knows, so they will probably indeed tell ISPs to block it.

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Post by arcfour »

Barbing wrote: post #11
rahidz wrote: post #2

4chan's response (through lawyers): https://x.com/prestonjbyrne/status/1956391746029428914 Full text: "BYRNE & STORM, P.C. ATTORNEYS-AT-LAW Re: Statement Regarding Ofcom's Reported Provisional Notice - 4chan Community Support LLC Byrne & Storm, P.C. ( @ByrneStorm ) and Coleman Law, P.C. ( @RonColeman ) represent 4chan Community Support LLC ("4chan"). According to press reports, the U.K. Office of Communications ("Ofc…

Thanks - so instead they’ll be sued by someone under those new US state laws that cover sites featuring some % of adult content? (There was a worrisome blog post someone shared here on HN a few weeks ago.)

No.

Re: Investigation into 4chan and its compliance with duties to protect its users

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Post by madaxe_again »

nubinetwork wrote: post #15
Retr0id wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they tell ISPs to block it Seems likely. And then that won't work, and they'll tell ISPs to block VPN traffic too.

I wouldn't put it past them, they've already ran tv news pieces (or maybe it was an ad, I don't watch tv, let alone British tv) basically saying that if you use a VPN, that you're not thinking of the children.

You wouldn’t steal a car…
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