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obviously the big AI companies are using lots and lots of energy, making big claims like you are about “brainwashing” and such without anything to back it up is cancerous to real discussion. as are the bad faith arguments.
Not just bills. These data centers, a major driver of new energy use, are contributing to climate change. Sadly it seems to be another way for large companies to offload externalities onto the public.
this is nonsense and the author even admits it > In the coming years, artificial intelligence could turbocharge those increases the cost of residential power is going up because of the shift away from natural gas towards solar failing to admit this or worse lying about it is not going to actually help long term
Not just bills. These data centers, a major driver of new energy use, are contributing to climate change. Sadly it seems to be another way for large companies to offload externalities onto the public.
Not just bills. These data centers, a major driver of new energy use, are contributing to climate change. Sadly it seems to be another way for large companies to offload externalities onto the public.
Are they? IIRC MS & Google were running on carbon neutral sources.
this is nonsense and the author even admits it > In the coming years, artificial intelligence could turbocharge those increases the cost of residential power is going up because of the shift away from natural gas towards solar failing to admit this or worse lying about it is not going to actually help long term
what? solar is cheaper than natural gas.
Not just bills. These data centers, a major driver of new energy use, are contributing to climate change. Sadly it seems to be another way for large companies to offload externalities onto the public.
To say nothing of the exorbitant amount of water used to cool these machines, we’re on track to face a water shortage crisis long before any other climate change impact.
It's very stupid to evaporate potable water on purpose in dry regions, but note that many numbers in this area are highly sensationalized by taking e.g. the maximum design capacity of the cooling system instead of the actual load, and that there are several other cooling solutions. Most proper facts die tragic deaths before they make it to mainstream news media. :/
But the vast majority of my $500+ a month PG&E bill is for transmission, not generation.
And according TFA, those poles and wires for transmission are a large part of the increase in costs that are forecasted. Ideally, the folks who request the new plants and transmission lines pay for them, but it appears tech cos are attempting to pass the transmission cost burden onto residential consumers.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are they? IIRC MS & Google were running on carbon neutral sources.
Carbon neutrality doesn’t refill a drained reservoir used to cool off these machines. Running your servers on wind power doesn’t make the millions of gallons they’re dumping into cooling systems any less gone.
Also note that there's other cooling solutions than evaporative cooling, such as closed loop water cooling with chillers, cooling with sea water, using heat pumps to redirect the heat to district heating loops (making use of the heat!), just building in colder places requiring less cooling, etc.
Not just bills. These data centers, a major driver of new energy use, are contributing to climate change. Sadly it seems to be another way for large companies to offload externalities onto the public.
Are they? IIRC MS & Google were running on carbon neutral sources.