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Streaming services are driving viewers back to piracy

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Re: Streaming services are driving viewers back to piracy

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For me worse than the can't pay is the lack of options. In the VHS time I had more good movie options than in the current streaming services. I remember when I bing watched Kurozawa or Mario Monicelli's movies. Now it's very hard to find non American cinema. The tech is there, but the System fail us.

Criterion Channel and Kanopy are very good (not perfect) for international films.

Re: Streaming services are driving viewers back to piracy

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post #6

All streaming services should have a pay per minute system as an alternative to the fixed monthly subscription. That way, I'd happily use any service to watch whatever cause it would be convenient, instead of piracy. And it would be a reason for them to really improve their recommendation systems.

A bundle of streaming services. That you can surf and choose one from and just watch. And a TV guide that tells you what's running where.

Gee...sounds a lot like Cable TV.

Sarcasm aside, the one problem folks had with Cable was the inability to upgrade without getting locked into another 2 year contract. Streaming solves that one problem while enshittifying all the other good things.

Re: Streaming services are driving viewers back to piracy

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post #8

For me worse than the can't pay is the lack of options. In the VHS time I had more good movie options than in the current streaming services. I remember when I bing watched Kurozawa or Mario Monicelli's movies. Now it's very hard to find non American cinema. The tech is there, but the System fail us.

Even many American movies are no shows on most streaming platforms. Sometimes I'm like: "Let's take the top 30 movies that critics loved the most in US in year X".

As soon as it's earlier than 2005 you're gonna find less than half available across most streaming platforms, unless for renting/buying.

Re: Streaming services are driving viewers back to piracy

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post #10

About 10 years ago Netflix became available in the country where I was living back then. I was very excited about it, I was on their email list for years, waiting for the announcement. As I got the email that they are available, after work literally the first thing I did was to grab my credit card, and subscribe. I found 4-6 movies I wanted to watch, but when I saw that they had Godfather 1 and 3 without 2, I had a g…

If a movie has a Netflix label in it, it is a sure signal of a bad movie with a boring script made based on data.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accolades_received_by_...

Re: Streaming services are driving viewers back to piracy

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post #6

All streaming services should have a pay per minute system as an alternative to the fixed monthly subscription. That way, I'd happily use any service to watch whatever cause it would be convenient, instead of piracy. And it would be a reason for them to really improve their recommendation systems.

A bundle of streaming services. That you can surf and choose one from and just watch. And a TV guide that tells you what's running where. Gee...sounds a lot like Cable TV. Sarcasm aside, the one problem folks had with Cable was the inability to upgrade without getting locked into another 2 year contract. Streaming solves that one problem while enshittifying all the other good things.

I thought the main complaint was "I'm paying for channels I don't watch!" while not realizing the channels they were watching were actually what they were paying for, and the rest of the stuff was just lumped in for nearly free to make the lineups look bigger and more appealing.

Re: Streaming services are driving viewers back to piracy

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post #6

All streaming services should have a pay per minute system as an alternative to the fixed monthly subscription. That way, I'd happily use any service to watch whatever cause it would be convenient, instead of piracy. And it would be a reason for them to really improve their recommendation systems.

> pay per minute system

And/or pay-per-episode, pay-per-season or pay-per-show. So I don't have to start thinking ahead too much about the _length_ of something and can just enjoy the thing itself based on some pre-determined price.

Re: Streaming services are driving viewers back to piracy

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post #10

About 10 years ago Netflix became available in the country where I was living back then. I was very excited about it, I was on their email list for years, waiting for the announcement. As I got the email that they are available, after work literally the first thing I did was to grab my credit card, and subscribe. I found 4-6 movies I wanted to watch, but when I saw that they had Godfather 1 and 3 without 2, I had a g…

If a movie has a Netflix label in it, it is a sure signal of a bad movie with a boring script made based on data.

Based on data (and Twitter) part is true of any studio since a decade, in any case Netflix has produced or co-produced a good bunch of movies.

Also, some excellent documentaries.

Re: Streaming services are driving viewers back to piracy

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post #6

All streaming services should have a pay per minute system as an alternative to the fixed monthly subscription. That way, I'd happily use any service to watch whatever cause it would be convenient, instead of piracy. And it would be a reason for them to really improve their recommendation systems.

A bundle of streaming services. That you can surf and choose one from and just watch. And a TV guide that tells you what's running where. Gee...sounds a lot like Cable TV. Sarcasm aside, the one problem folks had with Cable was the inability to upgrade without getting locked into another 2 year contract. Streaming solves that one problem while enshittifying all the other good things.

> .. the one problem folks had with Cable was the i...

and hardware rental fees

ads on top of your service

bundling a bunch of channels you didnt ask for and increase price

outages

the list goes on

Re: Streaming services are driving viewers back to piracy

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A bundle of streaming services. That you can surf and choose one from and just watch. And a TV guide that tells you what's running where. Gee...sounds a lot like Cable TV. Sarcasm aside, the one problem folks had with Cable was the inability to upgrade without getting locked into another 2 year contract. Streaming solves that one problem while enshittifying all the other good things.

I thought the main complaint was "I'm paying for channels I don't watch!" while not realizing the channels they were watching were actually what they were paying for, and the rest of the stuff was just lumped in for nearly free to make the lineups look bigger and more appealing.

For some reason I always saw it in reverse, that I had to pay to subsidise a set of channels I'm _not_ interested in for the one I am.

Re: Streaming services are driving viewers back to piracy

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A bundle of streaming services. That you can surf and choose one from and just watch. And a TV guide that tells you what's running where. Gee...sounds a lot like Cable TV. Sarcasm aside, the one problem folks had with Cable was the inability to upgrade without getting locked into another 2 year contract. Streaming solves that one problem while enshittifying all the other good things.

I thought the main complaint was "I'm paying for channels I don't watch!" while not realizing the channels they were watching were actually what they were paying for, and the rest of the stuff was just lumped in for nearly free to make the lineups look bigger and more appealing.

I assure you that there are many people who do not need nor want ESPN and knew damn well they were directly paying it.
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