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Trump Just Militarized the Capital – What Comes Next?

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Do you think that crime is "on the rise"?

thats relative, it would be more enlightening to look at who is commiting what types of crime at what rate, then you would have useful information rather than a stark single metric of crime count.

i.e. type and freq of crime cross with income and/or occupation.

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Agreed, I can't wait. It's this or they should install facial recognition cameras with social credit scores. Either way, something needs to happen.

Not an exaggeration, I witness some physical escalation 3 out of 5 days a week between Union Square and Midtown NYC on my daily commute. 10 minutes ago a delivery guy and a pedestrian got into it when the bicyclist ran the red light and went into the cross walk while a swarm of people were walking through it. I've personally been accosted 3x while holding hands and walking my 5-year old son to school in completely "random" acts aggression. Strangely, it's not them trying to rob me, the aim is just to harass.

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I think that crime is not recognized or tracked in some cities. This is a problem in the USA. Canada is not having these issues in big cities as they have zero tolerance for violent crime.

Let me ask a different question. Do you think violent crime is on the rise?

Do you think violent crime is on the rise?

Nobody knows the real answer to this. Rather cities have become violent over time and criminals are released shortly after their violent crimes. The general public is well aware of this and why there is a non-partisan rise in home and self defense purchases.

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>most of my comments

I clicked through five pages of your comment history and only saw one other grey comment besides this one (I have show-dead enabled).

I suggest not doing the whole "this will get downvoted, but..." thing. It creates a tone of "I'm the underdog, who knows the uncomfortable truth".

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What's your take on the article saying that D.C.'s crime rate is at a 30 year low? Do you feel that things in big cities are so bad that an overreach of powers is justified in an attempt to fix it?

Is crime down because they are safer or because police have been told to stand down or see no point if the perp walks free an hour later?

Bottom line, I am skeptical. Cities all over have de-criminalized crime, which makes the statistics untrustworthy.

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>most of my comments I clicked through five pages of your comment history and only saw one other grey comment besides this one (I have show-dead enabled). I suggest not doing the whole "this will get downvoted, but..." thing. It creates a tone of "I'm the underdog, who knows the uncomfortable truth".

I get dog-piled when a post is active but yes over time people come back and it usually levels out. I am not complaining at all. It's more of a disclaimer that I might trigger someone. I edited my comment to say some.

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I too want us to get much harsher on crime, but I think it's naive to portray Trump's use of force as anything but a boot on the throat of dissidents and protesters, an authoritarian show of force, a purposeful provocation of his political enemies in an attempt to escalate, etc. I.e. not an honest reaction to crime statistics, obviously. That would mean reform, not ephemeral military takeover.

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Do you think that crime is "on the rise"?

I think that crime is not recognized or tracked in some cities. This is a problem in the USA. Canada is not having these issues in big cities as they have zero tolerance for violent crime.

What personal experiences, reporting, or studies have led you to this belief? If you have them easily available, please share them so that they can convince others reading your comment as well.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me ask a different question. Do you think violent crime is on the rise?

Do you think violent crime is on the rise? Nobody knows the real answer to this. Rather cities have become violent over time and criminals are released shortly after their violent crimes. The general public is well aware of this and why there is a non-partisan rise in home and self defense purchases.

Couple more questions:

1. "Nobody knows the real answer to this." Including you?

2. Do you think, specifically for argumentation, that Chicago is going up or down in its murder rates?

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What's your take on the article saying that D.C.'s crime rate is at a 30 year low? Do you feel that things in big cities are so bad that an overreach of powers is justified in an attempt to fix it?

What's your take on the article saying that D.C.'s crime rate is at a 30 year low? I do not believe crime is accurately tracked [1]. Calling in the guard is not overreach when a city is demanding it through inaction. [1] - https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/dc-police-commander...

Thanks for sharing the link, I hadn't seen that before! Very serious allegations there.

> Calling in the guard is not overreach when a city is demanding it through inaction.

Is the city calling for protection, though? There's a big difference between police departments fabricating data and a need for intervention, whether through taking control of the city police or bringing in the national guard. What's the actual situation? Why is the Trump administration militarizing the city instead of running statistics to get actual crime numbers?

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