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OpenIndiana: Community-Driven Illumos Distribution

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Re: OpenIndiana: Community-Driven Illumos Distribution

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As a Hoosier... I had to check the relevance... and learned it's basically a fork^3 of Solaris, a Sun operating system. OpenIndiana[3] Note: I guessed here at [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenIndiana [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illumos [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSolaris [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_Solaris

I have also used SmartOS, which imports KVM from Linux.

It is odd to boot it and see sendmail running from my native ksh93 root login.

https://www.tritondatacenter.com/smartos

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SmartOS

Re: OpenIndiana: Community-Driven Illumos Distribution

#12

Wow. Illumos / Solaris is still kicking, eh? Really too bad Solaris didn’t stick around and was so horribly mismanaged by Sun. Solaris and Vax/VMS is where I started my career decades ago, and still brings back memories.

I’m of the opinion that the acquisition of Sun by Oracle was the worst possible outcome; it guaranteed that Solaris would decline.

Re: OpenIndiana: Community-Driven Illumos Distribution

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post #2

I can’t figure out what this is from anything on the site. I suppose I need to know what Illumos is? My best guess is that it is an OS?

Solaris, basically. Illumos was derived from the old OpenSolaris project. I don't know how much it's diverged, as I don't really follow this much. But that's more or less what it is.

Maybe the Perifractic equivalent of the Sun fanworld can buy the Solaris trademark and rename it!

Re: OpenIndiana: Community-Driven Illumos Distribution

#14

Wow. Illumos / Solaris is still kicking, eh? Really too bad Solaris didn’t stick around and was so horribly mismanaged by Sun. Solaris and Vax/VMS is where I started my career decades ago, and still brings back memories.

I’m of the opinion that the acquisition of Sun by Oracle was the worst possible outcome; it guaranteed that Solaris would decline.

Still mad at IBM for screwing the pooch on that one. They basically handed the company to Oracle.

Re: OpenIndiana: Community-Driven Illumos Distribution

#15

Wow. Illumos / Solaris is still kicking, eh? Really too bad Solaris didn’t stick around and was so horribly mismanaged by Sun. Solaris and Vax/VMS is where I started my career decades ago, and still brings back memories.

I think a lot of decisions that eventually lead to the Oracle buyout were all pretty bad and Oracle itself being where good ideas go to die. As bad as MS is at extracting value out of its windows users, Oracle seems to fleece it's enterprise customers far, far worse. I don't think I would ever choose Oracle or IBM for anything.

It would be interesting to see a little more diversity in common operating systems in the wild though. Linux has pretty much taken over the server space, and iOS/Android have split the more common usage outside that, with what's left of desktop still mostly Windows.

I still think there's opportunity for something like Flutter as a cross-platform library that actually works with multiple backing languages.

Re: OpenIndiana: Community-Driven Illumos Distribution

#16
> illumos-closed package, containing binary blobs still necessary to build illumos-gate, was added

https://docs.openindiana.org/release-notes/2016.10-release-n...

> There are a small handful of illumos components for which source code is not available. Over time, we have replaced most of the closed source components from the Sun era with new open source versions. This work is ongoing

https://illumos.org/docs/developers/build/#getting-the-close...

> From this, however, project founder Garrett D'Amore took the last drop of the gate and announced illumos in mid-2010.

https://illumos.org/docs/about/history/

Re: OpenIndiana: Community-Driven Illumos Distribution

#17
I've been using OpenIndiana for a file server in my homelab since it came out and it's been quietly doing its job ever since without much issues. Coming from Linux it's not easy to find the equivalent commands of what I do on my other servers but it's also what I like about this project, it's another flavor of Unix to learn.

Re: OpenIndiana: Community-Driven Illumos Distribution

#18

I have to say, that I really loved OpenSolaris. I really have to try OpenIndiana. Can anyone tell me about their package manager?

OI uses IPS packaging, which is the same packaging used by Solaris 11 (some find it over engineered). Tribblix, on the other hand, is also an illumos-based distro but is based on Solaris 10 (and prior’s) SVR4 packaging which is managed via a utility called “zap”.

Both are good distributions, but I strongly encourage you to try Tribblix if OI is problematic; for whatever reason the latest OI installers do not seem to include the same amount of driver support as Tribblix, in my experience.

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