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Learn, Reflect, Apply, Prepare: The Four Daily Practices That Changed How I Live

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Re: Learn, Reflect, Apply, Prepare: The Four Daily Practices That Changed How I Live

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Post by darth_avocado »

bravesoul2 wrote: post #7

I like this. My view is I aint doing it if it aint a system. A system: change diet to always have at least 3 veg per meal. Do that until you die. A non-system: skip a meal and just eat soup for 30 days and try to drop 10kg. Not diet advice and some people may need to drop weight quickly under doctor advise. But the general idea is to avoid will-power driven outcomes and rely on habit and system driven outcomes. Not c…

I see it as designing choices. Want to eat healthy? Don’t bring the ice cream (or whatever else you struggle to eat less of) in your home. Want to get up early? Start going to bed at 8 and leave your phone in the other room. Want to exercise more often? Force yourself to bike or walk to the grocery store instead of jumping in the car.

Re: Learn, Reflect, Apply, Prepare: The Four Daily Practices That Changed How I Live

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Post by genghisjahn »

bravesoul2 wrote: post #7

I like this. My view is I aint doing it if it aint a system. A system: change diet to always have at least 3 veg per meal. Do that until you die. A non-system: skip a meal and just eat soup for 30 days and try to drop 10kg. Not diet advice and some people may need to drop weight quickly under doctor advise. But the general idea is to avoid will-power driven outcomes and rely on habit and system driven outcomes. Not c…

Main thing I learned with health and fitness is that, for me, I was always trying to do right long enough so I could cheat and "reward" myself. And that always lead to failure. I had to change my mindset from, "Be good until you feel like you can be bad" to ,"You've adopted a new lifestyle. This is you now. You're not building up points so you can buy a whole pizza and 3 beers. You're doing this because this is you now. This is the reward, being able to run miles in the heat. Right now, sweat all over you, breath going in and out. This is the reward." For some reason that worked for me.

Re: Learn, Reflect, Apply, Prepare: The Four Daily Practices That Changed How I Live

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Post by philipallstar »

romesmoke wrote: post #2

> Learn something every day . It's fine if it doesn't happen every day. Don't be obsessed about this stuff. Forgive yourself if you ever behave sub-optimally. You're not a machine, neither should you be one. Tyranny starts with the best of intentions.

> Forgive yourself if you ever behave sub-optimally

Of course there's nothing to forgive. There's no need to course-correct against a way that almost no-one will feel.

> Tyranny starts with the best of intentions.

Placing an irrelevant (and untrue) statement such as this next to the point you're making to imply that it reinforces it is a bit manipulative.

Re: Learn, Reflect, Apply, Prepare: The Four Daily Practices That Changed How I Live

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Post by coyotespike »

This was written with ChatGPT, probably 4o specifically - does that not jump out at anyone else? Maybe just me because I throw productivity/spirituality stuff at it all the time and get this kind of language back.

"This isn’t a method I’ve perfected. It’s one I’m actively living. And every time I return to it, something shifts.

Try it for a week. Not to optimize, but to notice what becomes possible."

Re: Learn, Reflect, Apply, Prepare: The Four Daily Practices That Changed How I Live

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Post by drumttocs8 »

genghisjahn wrote: post #12
bravesoul2 wrote: post #7

I like this. My view is I aint doing it if it aint a system. A system: change diet to always have at least 3 veg per meal. Do that until you die. A non-system: skip a meal and just eat soup for 30 days and try to drop 10kg. Not diet advice and some people may need to drop weight quickly under doctor advise. But the general idea is to avoid will-power driven outcomes and rely on habit and system driven outcomes. Not c…

Main thing I learned with health and fitness is that, for me, I was always trying to do right long enough so I could cheat and "reward" myself. And that always lead to failure. I had to change my mindset from, "Be good until you feel like you can be bad" to ,"You've adopted a new lifestyle. This is you now. You're not building up points so you can buy a whole pizza and 3 beers. You're doing this because this is you n…

Yeah, but I mean... pizza and beer...

Re: Learn, Reflect, Apply, Prepare: The Four Daily Practices That Changed How I Live

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Post by genghisjahn »

drumttocs8 wrote: post #16
genghisjahn wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Main thing I learned with health and fitness is that, for me, I was always trying to do right long enough so I could cheat and "reward" myself. And that always lead to failure. I had to change my mindset from, "Be good until you feel like you can be bad" to ,"You've adopted a new lifestyle. This is you now. You're not building up points so you can buy a whole pizza and 3 beers. You're doing this because this is you n…

Yeah, but I mean... pizza and beer...

Don’t…tempt me Frodo. I would use the pizza and beer for good…

Re: Learn, Reflect, Apply, Prepare: The Four Daily Practices That Changed How I Live

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Post by 01HNNWZ0MV43FF »

bravesoul2 wrote: post #7

I like this. My view is I aint doing it if it aint a system. A system: change diet to always have at least 3 veg per meal. Do that until you die. A non-system: skip a meal and just eat soup for 30 days and try to drop 10kg. Not diet advice and some people may need to drop weight quickly under doctor advise. But the general idea is to avoid will-power driven outcomes and rely on habit and system driven outcomes. Not c…

3 vegetables per meal? I don't even eat three ingredients for most meals

Re: Learn, Reflect, Apply, Prepare: The Four Daily Practices That Changed How I Live

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Post by romesmoke »

MoltenMan wrote: post #10
romesmoke wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't have commented if the article kept neutral on when to apply its ideas. But the push for daily learning-reflecting-etc is there. Even the segment you're quoting uses days for accounting. You're downplaying one's potential to read something like this on the Internet and try to literally live by it. As for machines and tyranny, they're terms capturing the Zeitgeist all too well.

> But the push for daily learning-reflecting-etc is there. But this is a good thing; if I waste a day without learning or doing anything, I feel bad about myself. And I want to feel bad! Always pushing to improve myself has helped me immensely. It's easy to keep telling yourself 'oh, I'll do better tomorrow'; it's harder to actually do better tomorrow. That's not to say you shouldn't take it easy on yourself every on…

Everyone has their values. It's OK if there's no universal system. I don't want to feel bad if a day passes and I haven't learned or done anything; I trust my intuition and experience to discern between peaceful and warlike periods. I'm all for doing hard stuff when needed; I'm all against the ideal of always; and yes, that ideal is tyrannical.

Life is not binary. Routines are not classified into hippie XOR hardcore. Not feeling bad for not improving yourself is a good sign of having actually improved. But that's just my opinion. Take care.

Re: Learn, Reflect, Apply, Prepare: The Four Daily Practices That Changed How I Live

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Post by romesmoke »

philipallstar wrote: post #14
romesmoke wrote: post #2

> Learn something every day . It's fine if it doesn't happen every day. Don't be obsessed about this stuff. Forgive yourself if you ever behave sub-optimally. You're not a machine, neither should you be one. Tyranny starts with the best of intentions.

> Forgive yourself if you ever behave sub-optimally Of course there's nothing to forgive. There's no need to course-correct against a way that almost no-one will feel. > Tyranny starts with the best of intentions. Placing an irrelevant (and untrue) statement such as this next to the point you're making to imply that it reinforces it is a bit manipulative.

You sound lucky enough to have dodged self-hate. Happy for you. Enjoy your day.
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