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Nukes, Nubs And Coners: The Social Hierarchy Aboard A Nuclear Submarine (2020)

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Because submarines are still ships that can be boarded. This is more for defense of the crew vs offense.

Firing rounds inside a nuclear submarine? Isn't it like firing a gun inside a plane?

It's definitely a thing you don't do without good reason (enemy boarding action/mutiny) but remember subs are designed to survive nearby explosions underwater; there's redundancy and there's massive amounts of time spent training damage control where your repair or work around damaged systems.

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Why are there firearms on the submarine? Do they open the hatch and shoot at the opponent's submarine in case the torpedos don't work?

Primarily in case a KGB agent (incognito as a cook's mate) wants to stop a mutiny lead by a group of officers and aided by the CIA.

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Firing rounds inside a nuclear submarine? Isn't it like firing a gun inside a plane?

Yes. What's wrong with that? A 9mm, buck shot, or even a 556 (which they are not using on a sub) is not piercing the pressure hull of a submarine. That's before considering all the other mass of metal and matter within the sub.

5.56 is fine in a sub.

Technically firing a .50 / 12.7mm should be fine for the hull even with API.

Bulkheads are thick.

(Note: SynTech / frangible ammo preferred)

Re: Nukes, Nubs And Coners: The Social Hierarchy Aboard A Nuclear Submarine (2020)

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Yes. What's wrong with that? A 9mm, buck shot, or even a 556 (which they are not using on a sub) is not piercing the pressure hull of a submarine. That's before considering all the other mass of metal and matter within the sub.

5.56 is fine in a sub. Technically firing a .50 / 12.7mm should be fine for the hull even with API. Bulkheads are thick. (Note: SynTech / frangible ammo preferred)

I really meant that at the ranges that you would probably be engaging at in a sub (sub 10ft) a 556 is not the correct round to use.

Re: Nukes, Nubs And Coners: The Social Hierarchy Aboard A Nuclear Submarine (2020)

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Why are there firearms on the submarine? Do they open the hatch and shoot at the opponent's submarine in case the torpedos don't work?

I grew up watching Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea... those guys were always needing to break out the small arms. Apparently lots of rowdy sea critters looking to get in the boat.

Re: Nukes, Nubs And Coners: The Social Hierarchy Aboard A Nuclear Submarine (2020)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

5.56 is fine in a sub. Technically firing a .50 / 12.7mm should be fine for the hull even with API. Bulkheads are thick. (Note: SynTech / frangible ammo preferred)

I really meant that at the ranges that you would probably be engaging at in a sub (sub 10ft) a 556 is not the correct round to use.

Oh, valid!

Just thinking through Navy issued small arms. Lots of M4s and M17/M18.

Re: Nukes, Nubs And Coners: The Social Hierarchy Aboard A Nuclear Submarine (2020)

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Why are there firearms on the submarine? Do they open the hatch and shoot at the opponent's submarine in case the torpedos don't work?

If that's what the mission requires, yes of course.

Of course, other aspects of other missions might also require firearms.

And since they have fucking nukes, all possible scales of violence are literally on the table.

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