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“The Hollow Men” at 100

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The Hollow Men is from 1925. Try to read it like a beatnik poet, world-weary and confident, with finger snaps and bongo drums or a jazz orchestra in the background. Eliot was a fascinating fellow traveler person. My favorite site for his poems is here: https://mypoeticside.com/poets/t-s-eliot-poems

He was also a virulent anti-semite

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The Hollow Men is from 1925. Try to read it like a beatnik poet, world-weary and confident, with finger snaps and bongo drums or a jazz orchestra in the background. Eliot was a fascinating fellow traveler person. My favorite site for his poems is here: https://mypoeticside.com/poets/t-s-eliot-poems

The beatniks were most active in the 50s, maybe as early as the mid 40s, but definitely not 1925.

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The Hollow Men is from 1925. Try to read it like a beatnik poet, world-weary and confident, with finger snaps and bongo drums or a jazz orchestra in the background. Eliot was a fascinating fellow traveler person. My favorite site for his poems is here: https://mypoeticside.com/poets/t-s-eliot-poems

He was also a virulent anti-semite

Which was sadly not uncommon in those days. The Nazi party had a significant following in both the US and the UK at that time.

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The Hollow Men is from 1925. Try to read it like a beatnik poet, world-weary and confident, with finger snaps and bongo drums or a jazz orchestra in the background. Eliot was a fascinating fellow traveler person. My favorite site for his poems is here: https://mypoeticside.com/poets/t-s-eliot-poems

Though their genres and styles were completely different, the timing of his work, its reflections on the trauma of WW1, and then his conversion to conservative Catholicism reminds me more of Tolkien.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was also a virulent anti-semite

Which was sadly not uncommon in those days. The Nazi party had a significant following in both the US and the UK at that time.

That doesn’t make it any better. They also had significant opposition.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which was sadly not uncommon in those days. The Nazi party had a significant following in both the US and the UK at that time.

That doesn’t make it any better. They also had significant opposition.

Indeed, they had opposition. However, the way we have been taught history has been laundered to make us think that Nazi ideology never had a significant base of support outside of Germany, when the truth was that it was not only significant, but segregated American society under Jim Crow was in several ways a model for the Nazis.

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He was also a virulent anti-semite

Like Wagner and lots of other artists around that time. Agatha Christie's most famous novel? - Ten Little Niggers. Jean Genet was a convicted criminal. I try to separate the work from the artist, even if it's difficult.

OP doesn’t even acknowledge it.

Eliot chose, in 1948, when the Holocaust was common knowledge, to reprint a poem that contains the line:

>On the Rialto once./The rats are underneath the piles. The jew is underneath the lot.

That isn’t a poet following a common zeitgeist, that is a deliberate, provocative act.

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Here's my favourite reading: https://youtube.com/watch?v=nwcP3NOCeiE .

I was going to respond saying how much I dislike the way the narrator reads the poem - like a vicar 45 minutes into an overlong Sunday sermon, as bored as the congregation - then I saw the OP article included a link to Eliot reading his own poem. And that one sounds like the vicar now entering the third hour of his overlong Sunday sermon. So I have to agree: your favourite reading is the better reading of the poem.

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The Hollow Men is from 1925. Try to read it like a beatnik poet, world-weary and confident, with finger snaps and bongo drums or a jazz orchestra in the background. Eliot was a fascinating fellow traveler person. My favorite site for his poems is here: https://mypoeticside.com/poets/t-s-eliot-poems

Though their genres and styles were completely different, the timing of his work, its reflections on the trauma of WW1, and then his conversion to conservative Catholicism reminds me more of Tolkien.

He wasn’t actually Catholic-Catholic, but Anglo-Catholic, a faction within the Anglican church which revived a lot of Catholic liturgical practices without entering into communion with Rome.
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