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JD Vance's team had water level of Ohio river raised for family's boating trip

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Re: JD Vance's team had water level of Ohio river raised for family's boating trip

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I wouldn't be surprised if this happened without JD Vance's knowledge. This sounds like a thing that Secret Service would make happen to make sure they can secure him at all times.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was explicitly requested to make for a more fun kayaking trip either. This sounds like a thing that someone who rejects climate change while receiving big oil donations would do.

Re: JD Vance's team had water level of Ohio river raised for family's boating trip

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The Secret Service did it to ensure the security of the second family. Via NYT:

"Anthony Guglielmi, a Secret Service spokesman, said that for security reasons, the agency asked the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to temporarily increase water flow from Caesar Creek Lake, which is connected to the river.

The boats used by the Secret Service for security or an emergency evacuation are usually motorized and need deeper waters to operate, he said. Smaller boats like the ones the Vances were using, such as kayaks and canoes, can operate in shallower waters.

Mr. Guglielmi also said that the Service and local public safety officials conducted a scouting mission ahead of the excursion. During that time, one of the local public safety boats ran aground, an indication that the water level was too low for that vessel.” [0]

0: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/07/us/politics/secret-servic...

Re: JD Vance's team had water level of Ohio river raised for family's boating trip

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How many vacations does this guy take??

* family ski trip to Vermont in March * family trip to Disneyland in July * family kayak trip in Ohio last week (on his 41st birthday) * currently on a 10 day visit with family to the UK The total is about 18 days of vacation in 201 days in office. That's more vacation that I get. Is it high for politicians?

Seems pretty normal amount from many western countries / EU perspective though. A quite standard 30 days paid time off could go like:

- Christmas to New year off (~3-5 days PTO + public holidays paid)

- Winter holiday in Feb/March (5 days PTO)

- Maybe a week off around Easter or Ascension day (4 days PTO + public holiday paid)

- 3 weeks off in the summer (15 days PTO)

- A long weekend in the autumn (1 day PTO) or a week if you didn't take a week off in the spring

-> 30 days PTO total

Re: JD Vance's team had water level of Ohio river raised for family's boating trip

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post #12

The Secret Service did it to ensure the security of the second family. Via NYT: "Anthony Guglielmi, a Secret Service spokesman, said that for security reasons, the agency asked the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to temporarily increase water flow from Caesar Creek Lake, which is connected to the river. The boats used by the Secret Service for security or an emergency evacuation are usually motorized and need deeper wat…

Instead of changing the flow of water, what if they had just gotten the second family to vacation elsewhere

Re: JD Vance's team had water level of Ohio river raised for family's boating trip

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post #12

The Secret Service did it to ensure the security of the second family. Via NYT: "Anthony Guglielmi, a Secret Service spokesman, said that for security reasons, the agency asked the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to temporarily increase water flow from Caesar Creek Lake, which is connected to the river. The boats used by the Secret Service for security or an emergency evacuation are usually motorized and need deeper wat…

Oh this changes everything!

Thankfully we all have your superior reasoning skills to help us navigate these frought waters.

Re: JD Vance's team had water level of Ohio river raised for family's boating trip

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post #14
post #12

The Secret Service did it to ensure the security of the second family. Via NYT: "Anthony Guglielmi, a Secret Service spokesman, said that for security reasons, the agency asked the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to temporarily increase water flow from Caesar Creek Lake, which is connected to the river. The boats used by the Secret Service for security or an emergency evacuation are usually motorized and need deeper wat…

Instead of changing the flow of water, what if they had just gotten the second family to vacation elsewhere

Does it matter? Something else would be offset just the same.

Re: JD Vance's team had water level of Ohio river raised for family's boating trip

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post #5

I wouldn't be surprised if this happened without JD Vance's knowledge. This sounds like a thing that Secret Service would make happen to make sure they can secure him at all times.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was explicitly requested to make for a more fun kayaking trip either. This sounds like a thing that someone who rejects climate change while receiving big oil donations would do.

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Re: JD Vance's team had water level of Ohio river raised for family's boating trip

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post #12

The Secret Service did it to ensure the security of the second family. Via NYT: "Anthony Guglielmi, a Secret Service spokesman, said that for security reasons, the agency asked the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to temporarily increase water flow from Caesar Creek Lake, which is connected to the river. The boats used by the Secret Service for security or an emergency evacuation are usually motorized and need deeper wat…

"for security reasons" is a wonderful excuse that can be used for everything, and mostly just shuts down any criticisms. It's up there with 'for the children'.

Re: JD Vance's team had water level of Ohio river raised for family's boating trip

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post #5

I wouldn't be surprised if this happened without JD Vance's knowledge. This sounds like a thing that Secret Service would make happen to make sure they can secure him at all times.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was explicitly requested to make for a more fun kayaking trip either. This sounds like a thing that someone who rejects climate change while receiving big oil donations would do.

That's why an article with low journalist standards was written, for somebody like you who wants their bias confirmed.
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