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Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”

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Citation needed. I honestly do not know what you are referring to. Even if I had to take your "sexual predator" at face value, I would still have to balance that against the good stable reliable distro they have been done for so many years.

Jeremy Bicha

Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”

#12
post #6

Biggest change for me is /tmp behavior. In Debian 13 /tmp become RAM-disk by default (instead of files on the file system) and uses up to 50% of available ram. But as expected of Debian the release notes included an easy fix to restore normal /tmp behavior for people and applications that place many small or large files there. https://www.debian.org/releases/trixie/release-notes/issues.... >"You can return to /tmp be…

Also watch out for surprise file deletes in /tmp and /var/tmp at 10 and 30 days.

This too can be turned off.

Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”

#13
I've upgraded all my servers and laptops to Debian 13.

Lucky 13 and all... And not a single issue so far. Very happy!

Thanks to the Debian team for putting out yet another high quality, reliable release :)

Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”

#14
You can still use sysvinit, I've already tested servers and desktop builds.

From my build box:

  chroot $MOUNTPOINT/ /bin/bash -c "http_proxy=$aptproxy apt-get -y --purge --allow remove-essential install sysvinit-core sysvinit-utils systemd-sysv- systemd-"
There is a weird depends you cannot get around without simultaneously removing and installing in parallel. A Debian bug highlighted the above, with a "-" for systemd-sysv- systemd- as a fix, along with allow remove essential.

After this fix, sysvinit builds with debootstrap were almost identical as to bookworm. This includes for desktops.

As per with bookworm through buster, you'll still need something like this too:

  $ cat /etc/apt/preferences.d/systemd

  # this is the only systemd package that is required, so we up its priority first...
  Package: libsystemd0
  Pin: release trixie
  Pin-Priority: 700

  # exclude the rest
  Package: systemd
  Pin: release *
  Pin-Priority: -1

  Package: *systemd*
  Pin: release *
  Pin-Priority: -1

  Package: systemd:i386
  Pin: release *
  Pin-Priority: -1

  Package: systemd:amd64
  Pin: release *
  Pin-Priority: -1

Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”

#15
post #3

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Citation needed. I honestly do not know what you are referring to. Even if I had to take your "sexual predator" at face value, I would still have to balance that against the good stable reliable distro they have been done for so many years.

I too had no idea what he’s talking about, so I did some digging.

So, an open-source contributor who works for Canonical on Ubuntu gave a talk at Debconf. He is a convicted and admitted sexual predator who served time in prison for his crimes. This all is pretty well-documented.

But… then what? He did the time for his crimes. He’s on the national sex offender registry. What now? Should he be unemployable? Should his contributions to open-source projects be rejected? Should he not be able to give a talk on some technical topic he’s presumably an expert on?

Either we agree that serving your prison sentence is sufficient atonement for your crimes or we have to work to change the prison system such that it is. I don’t know that excluding someone from contributing to society for the rest of their life is the right answer.

Please note that this is a very shallow summary for those who (like me) were unaware of the drama here. I have no idea of the extent of his crimes past what I wrote above, nor if the time he served “seems” appropriate (not that a single value there could ever be considered appropriate by everyone simultaneously). My assumptions are that he was convicted, served a reasonably appropriate amount of time, was released, and has committed no further crimes of that nature in the intervening period since (any or all of which I could be wrong about).

I also have seen accusations of rude/antagonistic behavior outside of this specific topic, but am leaving those aside since they weren’t part of GP’s complaint.

Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”

#16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Citation needed. I honestly do not know what you are referring to. Even if I had to take your "sexual predator" at face value, I would still have to balance that against the good stable reliable distro they have been done for so many years.

I believe this is the guy he's talking about. By linking to this, I'm not saying the allegations are true, but it's the discussion I've seen mentioned elsewhere, which I believe OP is referring to: https://x.com/LundukeJournal/status/1944505084919816337 > Tomorrow, July 14th, at the annual Debian Conference (DebConf ‘25), Jeremy Bicha will be speaking. > Bicha, as we learned last week (after he defaced an open source…

I'm not commenting about the allegations themselves (which may be true), but be careful citing Lunduke - he's a pretty famous click-baity megatroll in the OSS world.

Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”

#17
> i386 is no longer supported as a regular architecture: there is no official kernel and no Debian installer for i386 systems. The i386 architecture is now only intended to be used on a 64-bit (amd64) CPU. Users running i386 systems should not upgrade to trixie. Instead, Debian recommends either reinstalling them as amd64, where possible, or retiring the hardware.

Impressive that i386 support made it all the way to August 2025. I have Debian 10 Buster running on a Pentium 3 which only EOL'd last year in June 2024. It's still useful on that hardware and I'm grateful support continued as long as it did!

OpenBSD still supports i386 for those looking for a modern OS on old 32-bit hardware.

Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”

#18
post #9

I can't believe we've come to such a high number, and a particularly lucky one at that Alas it's still not suitable as a daily driver for the average home user and probably never will be. It is unfortunate that Ubuntu has to reign supreme in that regard.

The installation is slightly easier (but still hard because of USB install) and the website has a more appealing design. Except from that what is better in Ubuntu for the average casual user? Proprietary blobs are now included in the default installer since version 12.

Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”

#20

Maybe title should note that it has now been released? There has been many updates about Trixie in the past few months in preparation for today.

I think the title has been trimmed from the word “realeased”. Might be another case of HN auto title edit botching the original title.
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