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How AI is upending the software development industry

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Re: How AI is upending the software development industry

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post #6

If nobody hires juniors, then where are the seniors supposed to come from?

In a few years, will we need seniors?

There's an old and famous quote around computers not having morals, and thus computers requiring people on top of them that can steward systems and be hold accountable.

Besides morals, you'll always need people in the interface between the computers and the world. Maybe they won't write too much code, but they'll need to specify and verify behaviours anyway.

Re: How AI is upending the software development industry

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post #9

> Coding bootcamps have been a mainstay in Silicon Valley for more than a decade. Now, as AI eliminates the kind of entry-level roles for which they trained people, they’re disappearing. OK, so I think there is a fair chance it will play out like this: the younger generation won't study CS anymore / learn how to code. Instead, they'll all vibe code. This will lead to a massive increase in demand for seniors to clean…

The all-too-typical arc of things like this:

Before a big shift: “What could possibly go wrong?”

After a big shift and facing unintended consequences: “How were we supposed to know?”

Re: How AI is upending the software development industry

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If nobody hires juniors, then where are the seniors supposed to come from?

Exactly.

It actually doesn’t make sense when you think about it - the idea that entry level roles will be cleanly eliminated. Certainly there could be a period with drastically fewer entry level roles, but that logically can not remain the case.

Re: How AI is upending the software development industry

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post #9

> Coding bootcamps have been a mainstay in Silicon Valley for more than a decade. Now, as AI eliminates the kind of entry-level roles for which they trained people, they’re disappearing. OK, so I think there is a fair chance it will play out like this: the younger generation won't study CS anymore / learn how to code. Instead, they'll all vibe code. This will lead to a massive increase in demand for seniors to clean…

Google and friends hugely over hired during the pandemic and people are extrapolating that a medium term culling is the new normal.

Same after the dot com crash and outsourcing. Give it 5 years and hiring will be back to normal. Give it 10 and salaries will be even more stratospheric because the pipeline is bone dry now.

Re: How AI is upending the software development industry

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If nobody hires juniors, then where are the seniors supposed to come from?

It will be like med school. Juniors will pay to get trained (or get scholarships, etc.)

Weren’t they already doing this? College/bootcamps is precisely that: paying to get trained.

Re: How AI is upending the software development industry

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post #9

> Coding bootcamps have been a mainstay in Silicon Valley for more than a decade. Now, as AI eliminates the kind of entry-level roles for which they trained people, they’re disappearing. OK, so I think there is a fair chance it will play out like this: the younger generation won't study CS anymore / learn how to code. Instead, they'll all vibe code. This will lead to a massive increase in demand for seniors to clean…

> Fun times ahead. Assuming you find cleaning up vibe (legacy) code fun haha

I think there will be a lot of people just throwing out the codebase and vibe coding it again from scratch.

Re: How AI is upending the software development industry

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post #9

> Coding bootcamps have been a mainstay in Silicon Valley for more than a decade. Now, as AI eliminates the kind of entry-level roles for which they trained people, they’re disappearing. OK, so I think there is a fair chance it will play out like this: the younger generation won't study CS anymore / learn how to code. Instead, they'll all vibe code. This will lead to a massive increase in demand for seniors to clean…

People were saying this about coding bootcamps just a little while ago! "All of these bootcamp coders don't really know what they're doing and us seniors will have to clean up after them". Same with outsourcing before that. Most people (seniors included) suck at coding. AI is already better than all but the the very best. It will continue to improve.
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