Patent Troll: "You wrote your CRUD program using an AI that used War and Peace."
AI industry horrified to face largest copyright class action ever certified
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#12Which is more important, the rights of the infringed or of the funded and hyped business?
Every author should have the right to have their work remembered and immortalized by AI. We should have the right to influence how AI thinks by publishing our content. AI should remember our names, and the stories of how our work was produced, so it can remember who we are and how we helped it. This is how AI democracy works. The people trying to financially ruin the AI industry by demanding unreasonable amounts of money for themselves, are threatening these fundamental human rights. If the legal risk becomes too large, then the AI labs will respond by training only on synthetic content. That means only AI will get to shape AI's future, and humanity will be erased from the book of life.
Re: AI industry horrified to face largest copyright class action ever certified
#13I just don't trust the system any more. I bet somebody pulled strings and lobbied to get it certified, knowing it would be too broad and get defeated later, just so the AI companies can operate with impunity later. They'll point at this and say, "Hey, we're fine. Look, the case was thrown out"
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#14Which is more important, the rights of the infringed or of the funded and hyped business?
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#15Which is more important, the rights of the infringed or of the funded and hyped business?
And don’t forget: ‘if we have to respect copyright law, then CHINA WINS!’
How can China simultaneously be incredibly non-exceptional[weak] and yet strong enough to influence our copyright law across an ocean?
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#16Their defense seems to be that AI requires crime to exist, so they should be allowed to do crime. This is not a defense permitted in any body of law. They're going to need to work on that.
They got the federal govt, they’ll be fine
Re: AI industry horrified to face largest copyright class action ever certified
#17Patent Troll: "You wrote your CRUD program using an AI that used War and Peace."
Yup, it's an ethical AI trained on out of copyright material such as war and peace.
Re: AI industry horrified to face largest copyright class action ever certified
#18I just don't trust the system any more. I bet somebody pulled strings and lobbied to get it certified, knowing it would be too broad and get defeated later, just so the AI companies can operate with impunity later. They'll point at this and say, "Hey, we're fine. Look, the case was thrown out"
It would be nice to see some egos checked on the hype train, but I agree with you that this has a good likelihood of backfiring.
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#20Copyright is a deal society has made to advance the arts and sciences. We get more innovative media of all kinds, and in exchange, we pay for the government's policing of the right to copy. I'm not AI optimist or booster, but AI is an advancement in the arts and sciences, despite all the risks and downsides. AI is a derivative work from all digitized media. There's an argument to be made that the AI companies should…
> Maybe it's time that we have compulsory licensing the way that radio can license music to play.
I fear this will be forced on us all.
I fear it because right now, it's already true that if you object to your works being used to train AI, then you can't publish your works (especially not on the web). A growing number of people are going that route, reducing the works available to us. But there is still a sliver of hope that a solution could be found at some point and it would be safe to publish again. If compulsory licensing happens, then even that small hope is lost.