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The 'Contrarian Friend' Is Real, and They're Driving Everyone Crazy

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Re: The 'Contrarian Friend' Is Real, and They're Driving Everyone Crazy

#11

Well, luckily I don't have any such friends. But I've notice that contrarianism has really picked the past 5 years or so. People that used to be written off conspiracy crackpots are now seen as some sort of healthy alternative voice to "MSM".

I don't think questioning the prevailing narrative is a new thing.

Reminds me of a quote attributed to Napoleon, "History is a set of lies agreed upon".

Re: The 'Contrarian Friend' Is Real, and They're Driving Everyone Crazy

#14

Well, luckily I don't have any such friends. But I've notice that contrarianism has really picked the past 5 years or so. People that used to be written off conspiracy crackpots are now seen as some sort of healthy alternative voice to "MSM".

Diogenes was throwing defeathered chickens at people long before the pandemic made people more paranoid and contrarian.

This is older than dirt

Re: The 'Contrarian Friend' Is Real, and They're Driving Everyone Crazy

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What people are missing in this debate is that the need to be “contrarian” for some people stems from correction OCD. It’s not that your friend is “trying to be different” or “craves attention”—-it’s that they have a compulsive tic like biting their fingernails. Shaming them doesn’t fix their underlying disorder, it just makes you a bad friend to this person. Accept that they have this limitation (in your eyes) and l…

Nah. A friend with OCD isn’t constantly telling me I’m wrong about everything I say. Being around active contrarians (code phrases: “as the devil’s advocate”, or “yes, but actually…”) is freaking exhausting. It imposes a lot of psychic weight. A true friend will tell you your wrong when you’re being wring, but isn’t going to feel the need to lecture you about the difference between teal and cyan if you make a slip of the tongue about a random car’s color.

It’s not my job in life to be everyone’s personal therapist, for free, at the expense of my own sanity. I’d rather hang around with people who don’t make me wince and brace for their “correction” every time we talk.

Re: The 'Contrarian Friend' Is Real, and They're Driving Everyone Crazy

#19
There is a reason why Agreeableness is one of the Big five personality traits.

As mentioned below, it is somewhat compulsive to avoid getting trapped in a chain of logic that starts with some nonsensical over-generization like "the sky is blue" or error like "the current tariffs on india will kill Apple" (and I am compelled to point out that the threatened tariffs for the complicity with Russia's invasion of Ukraine may affect Apple but we don't know yet).

Even if we have learned not to say those objections out loud, they still take up space in our brain during discussions.

Re: The 'Contrarian Friend' Is Real, and They're Driving Everyone Crazy

#20
I have been on both ends of this phenomenon. My career and hobbies see more improvement today through error correction than technique building or rigor.

"Don't code like that, do this instead!" "Oops, you're rushing the beat of the music, try again and don't rush."

It is a daily challenge to project positivity despite my brain being attuned to smooth rough edges.

I suspect many in the HN crowd are similarly wired. Technology fields reward those who avoid pitfalls.

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