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Live From Nokia’s Windows Phone 8 Press Conference

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Re: Live From Nokia’s Windows Phone 8 Press Conference

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Post by untog »

lawdawg wrote: post #8

I am the only one that finds Metro to be ugly (hate the color choices and block-y design) and cluttered? This does not strike me as something I want to see on my home screen: http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/769... Regardless, I'm wondering if the average consumer feels the same way as well. WP7 is not selling well, and WP8 (and the new Lumias) don't really differentiate themselves that much f…

I was surprised to see a view like that being promoted. I love Metro, but I hate app makers that don't keep to the Metro aesthetic. When it's done right:

http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/nokia-...

I think it looks fantastic, and communicates more than the iPhone home screen without the mess of the Android one.

Re: Live From Nokia’s Windows Phone 8 Press Conference

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Post by sixothree »

lawdawg wrote: post #8

I am the only one that finds Metro to be ugly (hate the color choices and block-y design) and cluttered? This does not strike me as something I want to see on my home screen: http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/769... Regardless, I'm wondering if the average consumer feels the same way as well. WP7 is not selling well, and WP8 (and the new Lumias) don't really differentiate themselves that much f…

No, you are not the only one. Their choice of color is abysmal. Have you seen Server Manager in Server 2012? Awful, just awful.

At least the icons fit the home screen properly this time.

Re: Live From Nokia’s Windows Phone 8 Press Conference

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Post by lawdawg »

untog wrote: post #11
lawdawg wrote: post #8

I am the only one that finds Metro to be ugly (hate the color choices and block-y design) and cluttered? This does not strike me as something I want to see on my home screen: http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/769... Regardless, I'm wondering if the average consumer feels the same way as well. WP7 is not selling well, and WP8 (and the new Lumias) don't really differentiate themselves that much f…

I was surprised to see a view like that being promoted. I love Metro, but I hate app makers that don't keep to the Metro aesthetic. When it's done right: http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/nokia-... I think it looks fantastic, and communicates more than the iPhone home screen without the mess of the Android one.

Even in those two screens, everything just blends together (especially with the white text on yellow tiles). Just seems like a usability nightmare imo.

Regardless, I don't find Android home screens messy at all (although there are a few widgets that are poorly made), and with the customization ability that's provided with custom ROMs, it can be as beautiful as you want it to be.

Re: Live From Nokia’s Windows Phone 8 Press Conference

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Post by untog »

reddiric wrote: post #10
untog wrote: post #4

Nokia's new phones look fantastic. But their last ones looked fantastic, too. PureView camera? Awesome. But all my friends share photos through Instagram. No Instagram on WP8 = me not being able to share photos with my friends. So right now, this former WP7 user is sticking with Android. I really, really want to like Windows Phone- the UI is better than anything else out there. But it needs more support from third pa…

Windows Phone 8 has a native 3rd party API and DirectX, in addition to the C#/SL/XNA stack on WP7, which will make porting applications from and sharing code with iOS and Android easier.

Oh, I know. And I really do hope it makes a difference. But given Microsoft's connection to Facebook, and Facebook's ownership of Instagram... I was hoping they twist some arms today and announce Instagram as a WP8 'lens' app. That would be awesome.

Re: Live From Nokia’s Windows Phone 8 Press Conference

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Post by mtgx »

untog wrote: post #4

Nokia's new phones look fantastic. But their last ones looked fantastic, too. PureView camera? Awesome. But all my friends share photos through Instagram. No Instagram on WP8 = me not being able to share photos with my friends. So right now, this former WP7 user is sticking with Android. I really, really want to like Windows Phone- the UI is better than anything else out there. But it needs more support from third pa…

It seems Nokia's misleading "PureView" marketing has succeed as even tech savvy people can get confused into thinking this camera is the basically the same as the one in the PureView 808 smartphone.

It's absolutely 100% not. It doesn't have a high resolution for pixel binning to make those images ultra clear, and it doesn't have pixel binning at all. Also it doesn't have that super large sensor to capture much more light. It has a regular smartphone sensor. This is what made Pureview be Pureview. The new camera is nothing like it. It just adds some stabilization technology, but that's no reason to still call it PureView, other than to mislead people into thinking it's the same as the original.

I also think WP7 looked better than WP8. The small tiles make it look more cluttered.

Re: Live From Nokia’s Windows Phone 8 Press Conference

#17

Post by [deleted] »

mtgx wrote: post #16
untog wrote: post #4

Nokia's new phones look fantastic. But their last ones looked fantastic, too. PureView camera? Awesome. But all my friends share photos through Instagram. No Instagram on WP8 = me not being able to share photos with my friends. So right now, this former WP7 user is sticking with Android. I really, really want to like Windows Phone- the UI is better than anything else out there. But it needs more support from third pa…

It seems Nokia's misleading "PureView" marketing has succeed as even tech savvy people can get confused into thinking this camera is the basically the same as the one in the PureView 808 smartphone. It's absolutely 100% not . It doesn't have a high resolution for pixel binning to make those images ultra clear, and it doesn't have pixel binning at all . Also it doesn't have that super large sensor to capture much more…

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Re: Live From Nokia’s Windows Phone 8 Press Conference

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Post by antninja »

lawdawg wrote: post #8

I am the only one that finds Metro to be ugly (hate the color choices and block-y design) and cluttered? This does not strike me as something I want to see on my home screen: http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/769... Regardless, I'm wondering if the average consumer feels the same way as well. WP7 is not selling well, and WP8 (and the new Lumias) don't really differentiate themselves that much f…

Yes, both WP8 and Windows 8 start screens look like walls of blinking Flash banners to me. I won't judge a GUI without having actually used it, but it sure doesn't give me a good first impression.
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