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Brazil's Supreme Court Places Bolsonaro Under House Arrest
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Re: Brazil's Supreme Court Places Bolsonaro Under House Arrest
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
If Bolsonaro was responsible for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8_January_Bras%C3%ADlia_attack... how should a democratic society respond?
Brazil is not a democratic society, it's a dictatorship of the judiciary. Not a single brazilian voted for these judge-kings who also legislate and execute. That "attack" was directly caused by the "activism" of these judge-kings on the eve of the 2022 election. They engaged in blatantly unconstitutional political censorship and disproportionately targeted Bolsonaro and his supporters. Journalists and online influenc…
Perhaps you forgot to answer the question.
Re: Brazil's Supreme Court Places Bolsonaro Under House Arrest
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
Brazil is not a democratic society, it's a dictatorship of the judiciary. Not a single brazilian voted for these judge-kings who also legislate and execute. That "attack" was directly caused by the "activism" of these judge-kings on the eve of the 2022 election. They engaged in blatantly unconstitutional political censorship and disproportionately targeted Bolsonaro and his supporters. Journalists and online influenc…
Perhaps you forgot to answer the question.
There's no point in answering a question whose premises are invalid. The question was predicated on Bolsonaro being responsible for it. He wasn't.
He straight up tried to stop those people. There were lots of protests prior to that so called "attack". I saw him trying to call them all off. Numerous times. People protested anyway. Because they understood that Brazil was not a democracy.
He is a coward. He did literally nothing while the judge-kings were silencing his supporters with no due process. While people were going to jail in order to protect everything he came to represent, he was in the USA enjoying a vacation as if nothing was happening. He betrayed every single person who ever supported him from the very beginning.
And yet people are still assembling in the streets to protest the political unelected supreme court. Whatever Bolsonaro may or may not have started, it's bigger than him now. His current usefulness is limited to the fact Trump apparently likes him enough to sanction the brazilian despots who are persecuting him.
Re: Brazil's Supreme Court Places Bolsonaro Under House Arrest
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's the part about this that's lawfare?
The part where the current president's former lawyer is one of the "impartial" judge-kings involved in the case. "We defeated Bolsonarism!" -- Barroso, one of the judge-kings. Is further proof necessary?
Yeah, you'll need more than that because the results of the investigations so far are pretty coherent with Bolsonaro's beliefs in democracy as well as all the people who surrounded him.
Re: Brazil's Supreme Court Places Bolsonaro Under House Arrest
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perhaps you forgot to answer the question.
There's no point in answering a question whose premises are invalid. The question was predicated on Bolsonaro being responsible for it. He wasn't. He straight up tried to stop those people. There were lots of protests prior to that so called "attack". I saw him trying to call them all off. Numerous times. People protested anyway. Because they understood that Brazil was not a democracy. He is a coward. He did literall…
> Whatever Bolsonaro may or may not have started, it's bigger than him now.
I mean, it's a pretty big deal if he started it or not.
Punish crimes or take the laws off the books.
https://web.archive.org/web/20230108201723/https://www.busin...
Re: Brazil's Supreme Court Places Bolsonaro Under House Arrest
#16Good! https://archive.ph/j5EBq
Good?
What's he accused of? Something from 2 years ago? Why would he need to be under house arrest, just start the trial immediately you had forever to prepare. If you can't get the evidence in 2 years then maybe they didn't commit the crime or you should have a slam dunk obstruction of justice case.
Re: Brazil's Supreme Court Places Bolsonaro Under House Arrest
#17Good! https://archive.ph/j5EBq
Good? What's he accused of? Something from 2 years ago? Why would he need to be under house arrest, just start the trial immediately you had forever to prepare. If you can't get the evidence in 2 years then maybe they didn't commit the crime or you should have a slam dunk obstruction of justice case.
He trial is happening. There's a bunch of proofs. He likely will get convicted next month at worse.
Re: Brazil's Supreme Court Places Bolsonaro Under House Arrest
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's the part about this that's lawfare?
The part where the current president's former lawyer is one of the "impartial" judge-kings involved in the case. "We defeated Bolsonarism!" -- Barroso, one of the judge-kings. Is further proof necessary?
Proof of what? That your political position is "rambling incoherence"?
Re: Brazil's Supreme Court Places Bolsonaro Under House Arrest
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's no point in answering a question whose premises are invalid. The question was predicated on Bolsonaro being responsible for it. He wasn't. He straight up tried to stop those people. There were lots of protests prior to that so called "attack". I saw him trying to call them all off. Numerous times. People protested anyway. Because they understood that Brazil was not a democracy. He is a coward. He did literall…
> Whatever Bolsonaro may or may not have started, it's bigger than him now. I mean, it's a pretty big deal if he started it or not. Punish crimes or take the laws off the books. https://web.archive.org/web/20230108201723/https://www.busin...
There are no laws against protests or the questioning of voting machines in Brazil. Quite the contrary, our constitution is quite explicit in defending political freedom of expression.
What are you supposed to do when the supreme court starts violating the law and the constitution? Who are you supposed to turn to?
Their abuses started in 2019 with a "fake news" censorship inquisition and by 2021 they were disproportionately censoring Bolsonaro and his supporters for "fake news". Suddenly everything they said was "fake news", even provably true statements. People started to understand the court answered to no one and had itself launched a silent coup against brazilian institutions. That's the "countercoup" messaging in the article you cited.
If I had to point out someone as the "mastermind" of all this, I would say it was the supreme court. Society is merely trying to react to their profoundly destabilizing actions.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44748869
Re: Brazil's Supreme Court Places Bolsonaro Under House Arrest
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
The part where the current president's former lawyer is one of the "impartial" judge-kings involved in the case. "We defeated Bolsonarism!" -- Barroso, one of the judge-kings. Is further proof necessary?
Proof of what? That your political position is "rambling incoherence"?
I merely pointed out the painfully obvious impartiality of the court. Nothing incoherent about it. Bolsonaro's guilt has already been decided, they're just going through the motions. Gotta look like a democracy.