My theory: Age verification is essentially human verification. It is to stop AI. It's primarily for age of the human but more fundamentally it's about AI.
AI generated images/video pass verification...
Ready or not, age verification is rolling out across the internet
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#12I love this. I don't think children should be seeing what they can see on the Internet (we limit what movies or games they can buy, but hey - you can go online and watch hardcore porn, or people getting killed on video even when you are 12).
I also love that EU is working on a digital wallet that can facilitate that age check - I would for someone to make a social media with only verified people living in EU. Why do I need to browse russian generated posts that try to pretend they are citizens of my country?
I understand Internet has ideological foundations that are deeply entrenched in Sillicon Valley / American culture, but I don't but those anymore.
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#13I love this. I don't think children should be seeing what they can see on the Internet (we limit what movies or games they can buy, but hey - you can go online and watch hardcore porn, or people getting killed on video even when you are 12). I also love that EU is working on a digital wallet that can facilitate that age check - I would for someone to make a social media with only verified people living in EU. Why do…
I don't understand how you can see it as okay from the point of view of European culture though.
Age verification requires treating a website, not as some random person, but as a platform which has control of content and some responsibility. Age verification requires giving websites information that they should not have.
Surely the European perspective should be that it is not Reddit's business whether I am 50 or 15. That they are just a website and should not care who I am and should not have that information.
Furthermore, this violent images are reality. It should be possible to discuss war in public, and use first-hand information and discuss horrible pictures in detail.
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#14Maybe this will finally encourage us to move away from centralized services and create truly decentralized social networks outside of our own governments reach.
They'll just ban those
They probably won't be able to.
There's a legal right to end-to-end encryption and there's nothing preventing you from making a system look like HTTPS.
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#15My theory: Age verification is essentially human verification. It is to stop AI. It's primarily for age of the human but more fundamentally it's about AI.
If that were the motivation I would find it acceptable, but it almost definitely isn't.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
They'll just ban those
They probably won't be able to. There's a legal right to end-to-end encryption and there's nothing preventing you from making a system look like HTTPS.
It'll need to be developed extraterritorially, otherwise they'd just pick up the people developing it. They'll ban the original website, so you'll have to get it through dodgy means, which means they can insert backdoors for you (unless you're able to verify the code and compile it for yourself).
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#17Probably for the best, the internet is a pretty shitty place now.
It's really important to make sure the 16 year olds that are about to get the vote in the UK remain uninformed about what's going on in the UK and the wider world - we don't want them to start voting the wrong way now, do we?
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#18I love this. I don't think children should be seeing what they can see on the Internet (we limit what movies or games they can buy, but hey - you can go online and watch hardcore porn, or people getting killed on video even when you are 12). I also love that EU is working on a digital wallet that can facilitate that age check - I would for someone to make a social media with only verified people living in EU. Why do…
Is this intended as satire? Even if the position is so blatantly indefensible and ill-informed to be realistic, it's an unfortunate reality that there are people who actually do believe this.
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#19No thanks. I'm sure I'm not alone when I say that I will just stop using your service if you require age identification from me.
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#20No thanks. I'm sure I'm not alone when I say that I will just stop using your service if you require age identification from me.
Thats exactly what "they" want.