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Facts will not save you – AI, history and Soviet sci-fi

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Re: Facts will not save you – AI, history and Soviet sci-fi

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> Still, without AI a story like this would have taken me several weeks to translate and polish, instead of one afternoon. I don't understand this. It's only six thousand words and it's the polishing that takes the time. How would it have taken weeks to do the initial draft?

I suppose different people work differently and the author knows themselves better than we do?

Re: Facts will not save you – AI, history and Soviet sci-fi

#12

> Still, without AI a story like this would have taken me several weeks to translate and polish, instead of one afternoon. I don't understand this. It's only six thousand words and it's the polishing that takes the time. How would it have taken weeks to do the initial draft?

Maybe he's... not great at Russian? I'm at a loss, same as you.

And I don't have any skill in Russian, but I would say that his translation is not good, or at least was not thoughtfully made, based solely on the fact that he did not write the author's name in it.

Re: Facts will not save you – AI, history and Soviet sci-fi

#13
> One, there is no way LLMs in their current state are capable of replacing human translators for a case like this. And two, they do make the job of translation a lot less tedious. I wouldn't call it pleasant exactly, but it was much easier than my previous translation experiences

On the other hand, one day they will replace human beings. And secondly, if something like transalation (or in general, any mental work) becomes too easy, then we also run the risk of incresing the amount of mediocre works. Fact is, if something is hard, we'll only spend time on it if it's really worthwhile.

Same thing happens with phone cameras. Yes, it makes some things more convenient, but it also has resulted in a mountain of mediocrity, which isn't free to store (requires energy and hence pollutes the environment).

Re: Facts will not save you – AI, history and Soviet sci-fi

#14
One of the few articles about AI on the front page that doesn't make me want to throw my phone against a wall.

Haven't even read it completely, but in contrast to the countless submissions regurgitating badly thought-out meta arguments about AI-supported software engineering, it actually seems to elaborate on some interesting points.

I also think that the internet as a primary communication and mass medium + generative AI evokes 1984, very strongly.

Re: Facts will not save you – AI, history and Soviet sci-fi

#17
> There can be no objective story since the very act of assembling facts requires implicit beliefs about what should be emphasized and what should be left out. History is therefore a constant act of reinterpretation and triangulation, which is something that LLMs, as linguistic averaging machines, simply cannot do.

Yeah, no. I find it funny how everyone from other specialties take offence when their piece of "advanced" whatever gets put on a list, but they have absolutely no issue with making uninformed, inaccurate and oversimplified remarks like "averaging machines".

Brother, these averaging machines just scored gold at IMO. Allow me to doubt that whatever you do is more impressive than that.

Re: Facts will not save you – AI, history and Soviet sci-fi

#18

> There can be no objective story since the very act of assembling facts requires implicit beliefs about what should be emphasized and what should be left out. History is therefore a constant act of reinterpretation and triangulation, which is something that LLMs, as linguistic averaging machines, simply cannot do. Yeah, no. I find it funny how everyone from other specialties take offence when their piece of "advance…

Okay, shapecel.

Re: Facts will not save you – AI, history and Soviet sci-fi

#19
post #16

AI represents a move to the massive centralization of information into a few sources. History (or it's "interpreters") should never be in the hands of these few powerful entities aligned with even more powerful governments.

This. Any centralization or gate keeping of speech and knowledge is a danger to free societies. The tech is moving too fast for politics to keep up. I wonder if the only fix is to elect younger people, even if they’re missing other types of knowledge and experience.

Re: Facts will not save you – AI, history and Soviet sci-fi

#20

I agree and disagree. It's certainly the case that facts imply underlying epistemologies, but it completely misses the point to treat that like it entails catastrophic relativism. Building up an epistemology isn't just recreational, ideally it's done for good reasons that are responsive to scrunity, standing firm on important principles and, where necessarily, conciliatory in response to epistemological conundrums. I…

I agree with this whole-heartedly. Certainly some facts can imply a certain understanding of the world, but they don't require that understanding in order to remain true. The map may require the territory, but the territory does not require the map. “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Dick

We require the map.
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