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Palo Alto Networks agrees to buy CyberArk for $25B

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Re: Palo Alto Networks agrees to buy CyberArk for $25B

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In 2024 Cyberark had $1 billion in revenue. Can anyone comment on how this $25B number makes sense for Palo Alto?

We currently use both vendors.

If anything, this might make us stick with PA longer as they are the "niche" in our environment and presumably we will want to combine the contracts.

Re: Palo Alto Networks agrees to buy CyberArk for $25B

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In 2024 Cyberark had $1 billion in revenue. Can anyone comment on how this $25B number makes sense for Palo Alto?

1. Similar multiples to the Wiz acquisition

2. Large shared customer base,

3. Most enterprises need Identity SPM which Cyberark does pretty well at.

4. Vendor Rationalization is the name of the game. Security teams want to reduce spend significantly in both headcount and tooling, so PANW aquiriring Cyberark makes it easier to defend identity, cloud, networking, and other security spend as well as displace competitors. This is why platformization is becoming so popular.

Re: Palo Alto Networks agrees to buy CyberArk for $25B

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This gives me Wiz vibes (https://www.wiz.io/blog/wiz-joining-google), although CyberArk is much older (though despite being old, it is still unprofitable). In both cases, it seems the product is rather simple/basic but is being sold at insane margin to government(s).

Re: Palo Alto Networks agrees to buy CyberArk for $25B

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, Palo Alto can acquire Cyberark and then use its sales organization to up-sell its customers on CyberArk's offering. I've seen this at Microsoft where acquiring startups that provide capabilities and then incorporating them into Azure or Defender led to the usage of those capabilities skyrocketing and those particular acquisitions (not going to specifics because NDA) ended up being profitable.

I would sort of naively imagine that that would work at a smaller price tag but at $25 billion it would be tough to make it pencil out.

I'm not buying a revenue synergies argument. Has to be more.

1. These synergies are hard to deliver, let alone 25x.

2. Paying 25x revenue implies you're forecasting way more (+30x?) in value.

Re: Palo Alto Networks agrees to buy CyberArk for $25B

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In 2024 Cyberark had $1 billion in revenue. Can anyone comment on how this $25B number makes sense for Palo Alto?

Sure, Palo Alto can acquire Cyberark and then use its sales organization to up-sell its customers on CyberArk's offering. I've seen this at Microsoft where acquiring startups that provide capabilities and then incorporating them into Azure or Defender led to the usage of those capabilities skyrocketing and those particular acquisitions (not going to specifics because NDA) ended up being profitable.

The Silicon Valley playbook for the last few decades has just been to acquire monopolies and then exploit them.

That’s illegal of course but we stopped enforcing those laws somewhere in the early 2000s so here we are.

Re: Palo Alto Networks agrees to buy CyberArk for $25B

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Thank you for the heads up, I just uninstalled that app. I had it from 1 or 2 years ago and havent used it since. I feel like I'm being proven right that when selecting software, it should be open source and hosted on-site. Even if this causes problems, the alternative seems riskier.

What are you talking about? CyberArk is enterprise privileged access management. It’s not an app you install and forget about for 1-2 years. It’s certainly not something you just uninstall because you found out very basic information about the vendor on HN, because you almost assuredly run it because auditors require you to, and uninstalling it without a like replacement would be an extremely bad idea.
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