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Re: Generative AI. "Slop Generators, are unsuitable for use [ ]"

#11

Environmental aspect is listed as one of the reasons which makes me think this is more ideological than practical.

First of all, it isn't wrong. The power consumption of AI training and inference is massive.

Second, that page is obviously meant to shed light at AI issues from a lot of different viewpoints, it would have been a serious omission to not mention environmental concerns.

Re: Generative AI. "Slop Generators, are unsuitable for use [ ]"

#14
The IP point: this hasn't yet been fully resolved, and I expect companies to continue to fudge it by sticking "if disney return false" in their image generators. My own employer has a stance of "no AI generated code in production use" (but allowed for testing and infrastructure which will not be distributed).

I'm suprised they didn't make a point which is especially painful for Open Source projects, that AI might reduce coding effort but increases review effort, and maintainers are generally spending the majority of their time on review anyway. Making it easier to generate bad pull requests is seen as well-poisoning.

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I can agree with all but last point. There’s no proof nor counter-proof that human brain doesn’t work like that.

Can't prove the negative. Prove that it does instead.

Will come back to this comment in 15 years and admit you are right

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#16

Environmental aspect is listed as one of the reasons which makes me think this is more ideological than practical.

First of all, it isn't wrong. The power consumption of AI training and inference is massive. Second, that page is obviously meant to shed light at AI issues from a lot of different viewpoints, it would have been a serious omission to not mention environmental concerns.

>First of all, it isn't wrong. The power consumption of AI training and inference is massive.

This is massively overstated. We ought to be more careful in performing such calculations.

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#17

>Slop Generator Using that term through the article makes it hard to take seriously. I know nothing of this project but right off the bat it seems like a project that has little credibility just because of the tone used throughout. There's no need to turn it into a full-on tirade against this set of technologies either. Is this an appropriate place to complain about Reddit comments? Ironically, the author could well…

> I know nothing of this project It's an impressive one, to say the least. It's worth taking a closer look and weighing the excellence created by the human mind before completely dismissing the article's arguments. > Ironically, the author could well benefit from running this slop through an llm to make it more professional. True, that would effectively strip out all the heart and soul from the prose.

It would read so much nicer with a dozen em dashes and a bunch of “not only _, but _” constructions.

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> "These resources are better used on quite literally anything else."

What shocks me most is that we have found something less useful than bitcoin mining. Remember all the articles about the environmental impact of bitcoin? That is peanuts compared to what the worlds largest companies are biulding to power the next LLM.

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>Slop Generator Using that term through the article makes it hard to take seriously. I know nothing of this project but right off the bat it seems like a project that has little credibility just because of the tone used throughout. There's no need to turn it into a full-on tirade against this set of technologies either. Is this an appropriate place to complain about Reddit comments? Ironically, the author could well…

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