Earlier quoted context omitted.
In my humble experience company secrets are mostly useless for other companies.
Then why are they secret?
How we rooted Copilot
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In my humble experience company secrets are mostly useless for other companies.
Then why are they secret?
My mother-in-law is like this with knowing what various relatives are doing. Being the gatekeeper of knowledge gives her imagined power. I guess it's just part of the human condition.
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#14Earlier LLMs used to be a goldmine for company secrets (when it learned documents that shouldn't be on public internet). Most of it seem to be scrubbed now.
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#15OK, I think I understand what this is about: the vulnerability that they reported (and Microsoft fixed) is that there was a trick you could use to run your own code with root privileges inside the container - when the system was designed to have you only execute code as a non-root user. It turned out not to really matter, because the container itself was still secured - you couldn't make network requests from it and…
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#16Earlier LLMs used to be a goldmine for company secrets (when it learned documents that shouldn't be on public internet). Most of it seem to be scrubbed now.
In my humble experience company secrets are mostly useless for other companies.
Using that information for trading is illegal, but so is exposing that information outside of approved channels.
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#17That time produced qmail and postfix. We are back to the early 1990s.
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#18OK, I think I understand what this is about: the vulnerability that they reported (and Microsoft fixed) is that there was a trick you could use to run your own code with root privileges inside the container - when the system was designed to have you only execute code as a non-root user. It turned out not to really matter, because the container itself was still secured - you couldn't make network requests from it and…
In the modern world vulnerabilities are stacks. Asserting that "the container itself was still secured" is just a statement that the attackers didn't find anything there. But container breakouts and VM breakouts are known things. All it takes is a few mistakes in configuration or a bug in a virtio driver or whatever. This is a real and notable result.
Are there any known unfixed container breakouts at the moment in the kind of systems Microsoft are likely to be using here?
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Then why are they secret?
At most of the companies I've worked, low-grade managers love to hoard secrets. It makes them feel powerful. Someone gets promoted from Lower Level Manager Grade 4 to Lower Level Manager Grade 5 and they feel all "Oooh! Look at the new things I know!" My mother-in-law is like this with knowing what various relatives are doing. Being the gatekeeper of knowledge gives her imagined power. I guess it's just part of the h…
I know sysadmins and programmers who behave exactly they same way. They could give you permission or a script to do the thing you need to do but they'd rather have you come to them and ask them to do it. Gives them a sense of purpose, I guess.