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Re: Bits 0x02: switching to Orion as a browser

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Only browser I know that has zero telemetry by default, great UI, low battery drain and seamless Kagi integration. To me Chrome and Firefox are like steampunk borg machines with all that valves and plugs fiddling needed to kid yourself they might do the right thing.

Tor has had zero telemetry since its inception and I’ve been disabling telemetry in Waterfox for as long as I can remember - which is almost 15 years.

There were Firefox forks before that as well doing the same thing.

Re: Bits 0x02: switching to Orion as a browser

#13

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Browser monoculture is bad. Even if you "ungoogle" chromium, it is still developed by Google. And as long as their market share remains as dominant as it is, they can control the web. Web standards become Google standards.

Hope you don't mind manifest v3 and barely functional adblockers.

Re: Bits 0x02: switching to Orion as a browser

#14

Only browser I know that has zero telemetry by default, great UI, low battery drain and seamless Kagi integration. To me Chrome and Firefox are like steampunk borg machines with all that valves and plugs fiddling needed to kid yourself they might do the right thing.

Tor has had zero telemetry since its inception and I’ve been disabling telemetry in Waterfox for as long as I can remember - which is almost 15 years. There were Firefox forks before that as well doing the same thing.

Pretty sure there are Firefox forks that have telemetry disabled, Tor Browser being one of them, of course.

Re: Bits 0x02: switching to Orion as a browser

#15

Seems like the Orion browser is only supported on macOS and iOS. I am only mentioning this to save some people a couple of clicks. https://kagi.com/orion/

Yes, and I think it's unlikely that it will support other platforms in future because it's based on Safari.

Re: Bits 0x02: switching to Orion as a browser

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you try setting a system-wide proxy server under System Settings » Network » (select a connection) » Advanced… » Proxies?

I haven't tried that and that likely will work but I don't want to use that proxy system-wide. I want it specifically for this browser only.

If you want Tor, "torsocks" probably works. I am not sure if it conforms to or cares about environment variables such as "http_proxy" and "https_proxy", or through CLI: "--proxy-server", as some programs do.

Re: Bits 0x02: switching to Orion as a browser

#17

Seems like the Orion browser is only supported on macOS and iOS. I am only mentioning this to save some people a couple of clicks. https://kagi.com/orion/

Yes, and I think it's unlikely that it will support other platforms in future because it's based on Safari.

It's based on WebKit.

Re: Bits 0x02: switching to Orion as a browser

#18
> The only thing I’m missing is multi-account containers, or a way to isolate google or meta products for example into its own profile. But I can live with that for now.

Hmm, “profiles” work fine for me in Orion. A bit different to how Firefox and others achieve MAC, and less full featured maybe, but total separation is possible. You can’t assign sites to profiles but you can open separate profile windows.

Re: Bits 0x02: switching to Orion as a browser

#19

Seems like the Orion browser is only supported on macOS and iOS. I am only mentioning this to save some people a couple of clicks. https://kagi.com/orion/

Yes, and I think it's unlikely that it will support other platforms in future because it's based on Safari.

https://forms.kagi.com/?q=orion_linux_news

Re: Bits 0x02: switching to Orion as a browser

#20

Seems like the Orion browser is only supported on macOS and iOS. I am only mentioning this to save some people a couple of clicks. https://kagi.com/orion/

Yes, and I think it's unlikely that it will support other platforms in future because it's based on Safari.

It’s coming on Linux (scheduled for March 2026). See https://kagi.com/changelog#6479
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