Another Down Detector bullshit article.... it's getting incredibly tiring. Every time a provider (Phone, Internet or even cloud services) suffer issues ALL of them are reported as down.
UK: Phone networks down: EE, BT, Three, Vodafone, O2 not working in mass outage
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#12I wonder if it will be the same cause as the big Rogers outage in '22, a good old fashioned BGP botch. https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/rogers-commun... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Rogers_Communications_out...
Well, their towers were sorta up (as they couldn’t remotely turn them off since the network was down), so if you had a Rogers SIM, a call to 9-1-1 wouldn’t failover to other networks because the device made just enough of a handshake to try and fail on the Rogers network. A flaw in GSM I reckon.
Apparently the workaround was to remove/disable your SIM and hope another network has a stronger signal.
Oh, and the CTO was on holiday and had no idea for a while because… their phone was on roaming with Rogers and therefore dead.
I wonder if Rogers still does planned-in-advance multi-stage potentially-enterprise-breaking updates on Fridays
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#13This will happen the day that they try to take Taiwan, worldwide, in my opinion.
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#14I see we’re still using Down Detector as a source for stories, which may as well be called People Are Talking on Twitter Detector. It doesn’t do anything smart, it’s just looking for keywords on social media, sometimes by coincidence this indicates an actual outage.
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#15Sitting at a table in a restaurant in London with some family and O2, ER and Three are fine.
Re: UK: Phone networks down: EE, BT, Three, Vodafone, O2 not working in mass outage
#16I wonder if it will be the same cause as the big Rogers outage in '22, a good old fashioned BGP botch. https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/rogers-commun... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Rogers_Communications_out...
Diff with Rogers is that they took out their entire network: cellular, home/biz internet, home phone, corporate circuits (including MPLS links), most cable TV, a bunch of their broadcast radio (AM/FM) network just dead dead dead. Well, their towers were sorta up (as they couldn’t remotely turn them off since the network was down), so if you had a Rogers SIM, a call to 9-1-1 wouldn’t failover to other networks because…
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#19I see we’re still using Down Detector as a source for stories, which may as well be called People Are Talking on Twitter Detector. It doesn’t do anything smart, it’s just looking for keywords on social media, sometimes by coincidence this indicates an actual outage.
Yeah, it's far from ideal, but in my experience its accuracy is better than most anything else readily available, including the official status pages maintained by most tech companies.
Human reading > DD reading >> "All our services are operational" when they're absolutely f--ing not.
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#20I see we’re still using Down Detector as a source for stories, which may as well be called People Are Talking on Twitter Detector. It doesn’t do anything smart, it’s just looking for keywords on social media, sometimes by coincidence this indicates an actual outage.
“Smart” doesn’t have to mean complex and technically sophisticated.