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Re: Org tutorials

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Post by jcynix »

Nesco wrote: post #6

To people using org mode, how does it help you more than Markdown? Genuinely curious because I tried at some point and it felt too heavy. Maybe because I am a vim user instead of eMacs?

Markdown is a markup tool, i.e. you decorate your text. Orgmode on the other hand is a complete toolbox where you can add tags to notes, filter on these tags, manage calendars, etc. You can enter tables both for formatting and spreadsheet like calculation.

And you can insert snippets of code into your notes, like

    #+BEGIN_SRC shell
       ls | wc -l
      find . -type f -name "*foo*" 
    #+END_SRC
(or javascript, elisp, html, ... instead of shell) where the markup is changed appropriately in these regions.

You can even augment orgmode with elisp code if you are so inclined.

Re: Org tutorials

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Post by jcynix »

account-5 wrote: post #4
hodanli wrote: post #2

i like logseq as somewhat modern iteration of org-mode

What lead you to choose that over say obsidian, notion, Joplin, and the many others that pretty much do the same thing?

Orgmode is more than just a note keeping tool, it is a complete and complex toolbox. I can use tables like a spreadsheet, include source code snippets, etc.

Joplin is fine, especially for shared note keeping. We store its notes on a private WebDAV server and everyone in the family can access these notes from their laptops or mobile devices.

But the editing capabilities of Joplin are dismal. Try to swap lines (on a smartphone, no mouse), change the same term in a number of notes, or do some more complex editing operations. These are easily done in emacs/orgmode, even on a smartphone or tablet ... ,at least with emacs running in Termux under Android.

Re: Org tutorials

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Post by myaccountonhn »

Nesco wrote: post #6

To people using org mode, how does it help you more than Markdown? Genuinely curious because I tried at some point and it felt too heavy. Maybe because I am a vim user instead of eMacs?

I don't use it anymore but org-babel allows you to execute commands in code blocks. I would use that to build interactive explorations when learning how APIs work for example. I didn't find that nearly as seamless with Markdown.

Combined with org-agenda you also unlock a calendar with recurring events, task priorities and more.

Re: Org tutorials

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Post by NoboruWataya »

I hear so many people rave about orgmode on HN, all of them emacs users. This seems obvious since it is an emacs feature after all, but if orgmode is so good, has it not been implemented outside of emacs? Is there a standalone orgmode implementation that non-emacs users should look into?

Re: Org tutorials

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Post by doctor_blood »

NoboruWataya wrote: post #14

I hear so many people rave about orgmode on HN, all of them emacs users. This seems obvious since it is an emacs feature after all, but if orgmode is so good, has it not been implemented outside of emacs? Is there a standalone orgmode implementation that non-emacs users should look into?

What would be the point? Without emacs all you're left with is another markup language.

Re: Org tutorials

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Post by anthk »

Org-Mode with Hyperbole it's like doing computing in 2070, but without bullshit AI LLM's. Try it and you'll understand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFdgpb0TeQo

If you are a Lisp programmer, you can OFC use ob-lisp with it (and maybe there's ob-elisp to learn Elisp in a literate way).

This is like a Jupyter netbook, with steroids. Org Babel:

https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/

Supported languages:

https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/languages/index.h...

Re: Org tutorials

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Post by stevekemp »

NoboruWataya wrote: post #14

I hear so many people rave about orgmode on HN, all of them emacs users. This seems obvious since it is an emacs feature after all, but if orgmode is so good, has it not been implemented outside of emacs? Is there a standalone orgmode implementation that non-emacs users should look into?

There is an implementation for neovim, and some "viewer" applicatrions for android, etc:

https://orgmode.org/tools.html

Basics are easy to replicate, but one of the reasons why org is so useful is because it is tied into the emacs ecosystem, so you can write extensions/configuration tweaks in lisp. You can hookup agenda (calendars), etc, etc, and those things don't really translate so well to external tools.

If you had to write a lisp interpreter, and fake "bare minimum" compatability? At that point you'd be better off just running emacs for real.

Re: Org tutorials

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Post by [deleted] »

NoboruWataya wrote: post #14

I hear so many people rave about orgmode on HN, all of them emacs users. This seems obvious since it is an emacs feature after all, but if orgmode is so good, has it not been implemented outside of emacs? Is there a standalone orgmode implementation that non-emacs users should look into?

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Re: Org tutorials

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Post by sligor »

doctor_blood wrote: post #15
NoboruWataya wrote: post #14

I hear so many people rave about orgmode on HN, all of them emacs users. This seems obvious since it is an emacs feature after all, but if orgmode is so good, has it not been implemented outside of emacs? Is there a standalone orgmode implementation that non-emacs users should look into?

What would be the point? Without emacs all you're left with is another markup language.

What makes org mode tied to emacs ? I really need to try org mode to understand it. If only I had time...

Re: Org tutorials

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Post by pydry »

NoboruWataya wrote: post #14

I hear so many people rave about orgmode on HN, all of them emacs users. This seems obvious since it is an emacs feature after all, but if orgmode is so good, has it not been implemented outside of emacs? Is there a standalone orgmode implementation that non-emacs users should look into?

orgzly revived for android is pretty great.

more tooling would be good though, especially command line tools to get data in and out.

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