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We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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Re: We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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Post by jasondc »

vosper wrote: post #5
viharkurama wrote: post #2

After a U.S. federal contractor told us they loved Plane but couldn't use it due to ITAR requirements, we spent 6 months building a truly air-gapped version. No external connections, no license pings, no telemetry, everything runs in complete isolation. The interesting part: our air-gapped deployment actually runs faster than our SaaS version. Turns out when you eliminate all network latency, things get snappy. This…

> cloud-only tools like Jira. But Jira is not cloud-only? https://www.atlassian.com/enterprise/data-center

$$$$ Very expensive

Re: We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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Post by kingnothing »

jasondc wrote: post #10
zppln wrote: post #6

Ehm, fairly sure you can use Jira in an air-gapped environment.

from Google: "Atlassian has sunsetted its Server product line, including Jira Server, meaning they are no longer supported and users need to migrate to Cloud or Data Center versions. Specifically, support for Atlassian Server products ended on February 15, 2024. This includes the end of new license sales, renewals, and security updates for Jira Server. "

There's the self-hosted Atlassian Data Center product.

https://www.atlassian.com/enterprise/data-center

They also offer Government Cloud.

https://www.atlassian.com/government

Re: We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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Post by IshKebab »

magicalhippo wrote: post #7
viharkurama wrote: post #2

After a U.S. federal contractor told us they loved Plane but couldn't use it due to ITAR requirements, we spent 6 months building a truly air-gapped version. No external connections, no license pings, no telemetry, everything runs in complete isolation. The interesting part: our air-gapped deployment actually runs faster than our SaaS version. Turns out when you eliminate all network latency, things get snappy. This…

> Turns out when you eliminate all network latency, things get snappy. Same experience with JIRA. I read all these negative comments here and elsewhere about how slow and clunky JIRA was, and I couldn't relate at all. Then I realized all those who complained was using JIRA Cloud and we were using on-prem, and it all made sense. We've since moved to JIRA Cloud ourselves, and I understand now. We moved and none of the…

> Then I realized all those who complained was using JIRA Cloud and we were using on-prem, and it all made sense.

Even Atlassian doesn't use Jira cloud. Btw it's not "JIRA".

Re: We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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Post by [deleted] »

jasondc wrote: post #10
zppln wrote: post #6

Ehm, fairly sure you can use Jira in an air-gapped environment.

from Google: "Atlassian has sunsetted its Server product line, including Jira Server, meaning they are no longer supported and users need to migrate to Cloud or Data Center versions. Specifically, support for Atlassian Server products ended on February 15, 2024. This includes the end of new license sales, renewals, and security updates for Jira Server. "

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Re: We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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Post by jeron »

viharkurama wrote: post #2

After a U.S. federal contractor told us they loved Plane but couldn't use it due to ITAR requirements, we spent 6 months building a truly air-gapped version. No external connections, no license pings, no telemetry, everything runs in complete isolation. The interesting part: our air-gapped deployment actually runs faster than our SaaS version. Turns out when you eliminate all network latency, things get snappy. This…

>our air-gapped deployment actually runs faster than our SaaS version. Turns out when you eliminate all network latency, things get snappy.

Notion, take notes

Re: We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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Post by magicalhippo »

IshKebab wrote: post #13
magicalhippo wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Turns out when you eliminate all network latency, things get snappy. Same experience with JIRA. I read all these negative comments here and elsewhere about how slow and clunky JIRA was, and I couldn't relate at all. Then I realized all those who complained was using JIRA Cloud and we were using on-prem, and it all made sense. We've since moved to JIRA Cloud ourselves, and I understand now. We moved and none of the…

> Then I realized all those who complained was using JIRA Cloud and we were using on-prem, and it all made sense. Even Atlassian doesn't use Jira cloud. Btw it's not "JIRA".

> Even Atlassian doesn't use Jira cloud.

That would explain a lot.

> Btw it's not "JIRA".

When did they change this? I'm fairly certain[1] it used to be JIRA.

[1]: https://confluence.atlassian.com/jira061

Re: We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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Post by firesteelrain »

jasondc wrote: post #10
zppln wrote: post #6

Ehm, fairly sure you can use Jira in an air-gapped environment.

from Google: "Atlassian has sunsetted its Server product line, including Jira Server, meaning they are no longer supported and users need to migrate to Cloud or Data Center versions. Specifically, support for Atlassian Server products ended on February 15, 2024. This includes the end of new license sales, renewals, and security updates for Jira Server. "

Data center version is available. I use it.

Re: We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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Post by viharkurama »

magicalhippo wrote: post #9
vosper wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> cloud-only tools like Jira. But Jira is not cloud-only? https://www.atlassian.com/enterprise/data-center

They've removed it from their pricing page now, but when they announced the discontinuation of the regular on-prem server the minimum for datacenter was like 500 licensed users or something along those lines. In any case it was clear it's not for small shops like us. That said, air-gapped is a hefty requirement, so perhaps those customers are predominantly large?

We took a different approach with Plane's air-gapped offering. No minimum user requirements at all. We evaluate based on your use case and domain requirements, not team size.

Re: We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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Post by IshKebab »

jasondc wrote: post #3

Big fan of Plane since it's open-core. Doesn't seem to be a lot of options for self-hosted/open-core project management software. The existing ones looks pretty bad, and don't come anywhere close to Jira level functionality.

> don't come anywhere close to Jira level functionality.

In my experience that's probably a good thing. I've moved from a company using Phabricator to one using Jira. Phabricator had exactly everything we needed and was very nicely designed and worked really nicely.

Jira has everything you need plus loads of other stuff that project managers feel like they need to add. Oh and they'll never clear anything up or fix any config bugs because they don't actually have to ever use the "report bug" form so who cares if there are 100 fields and half of the mandatory ones are hidden in "More fields"? 5 different states for "TODO"? Eh who cares. 3 different ways to say which team a bug is in? Better fill them all in for every bug.

It's better to be missing features than to have features that project managers can configure.

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