XMLUI reminds me of XUL (XML User Interface Language)
XMLUI
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#12I spent a summer working on XAML UI's for an internship, and recently dove back in as a side project to update some Windows specific apps that rely on WinForms(https://github.com/hass-agent/hass.agent). XML UI's are fairly underrated imo.
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#13So it’s like JSX but with implicit imports and stringly-typed props?
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#14XML? Why not web components?
Focus, I'd assume.
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#15Crazy, I just spent the past month designing an XML syntax for defining components. Weird coincidence.
One issue I see in their choices is the HStack approach. What’s great about flexbox in CSS is that the flex direction can change dynamically. Admittedly I haven’t read the full docs for XMLUI, but binding the direction to the markup likely means you can’t do that.
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#16As a programmer I found that all no-or-less-code approaches break up sooner than one would expect. Eventually I chosen to always use the programming language itself for data fetching, looping and leave the templating (lit html in my case) to just passing in the data structures.
I've also seen examples that are pushed way further than I thought possible. I'm thinking about some of the things people do in Excel.
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#17I am super excited about the stuff we cannot see - I have a feeling the quality of engineering here is going to be solid + backed by consideration for the WYSIWYG programmers. Developing in Visual Basic is how programming became accessible for me as a kid.
I could do stuff with ease that had seemed like magic and completely out of reach without C++ and complex pointer gymnastics. So thankful to the movement and I sincerely hope this project can bring that novice-first approach to web programming that does not compromise on responsiveness and smoothness, while making sane compromises, and doesn’t hold you back.
Even more exciting is this - https://docs.xmlui.com/mcp.
It can reduce the amount of code tools like Claude need to generate (fewer tokens need to be generated) for a usable high-functioning UX/dashboard. I am going to start using this today.
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#18> The project we’re announcing today, XMLUI, brings the VB model to the modern web
But this ugly XML was the worst part of the old UI building experience, and you've made it worse by turning into a poor man's programming language without all the tooling proper languages have to support the poor user.
The good part was the immediate visual feedback in a GUI editor where you couldn't break anything by forgetting to close an XML tag! And you didn't even have to know all the types to type in because you had a visible list of UI elements you could pick from
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#19I knew folks were missing the Delphi-VCL and VB-WinForm experience. In a way, Flutter with Dart feels a bit like an attempt at bridging this gap between React-style web programming and those drag and drop UI and data builders.
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#20> The project we’re announcing today, XMLUI, brings the VB model to the modern web But this ugly XML was the worst part of the old UI building experience, and you've made it worse by turning into a poor man's programming language without all the tooling proper languages have to support the poor user. The good part was the immediate visual feedback in a GUI editor where you couldn't break anything by forgetting to clo…
how do u like jsx then?