So what are the best alternatives?
Giving Up on Element and Matrix.org
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Re: Giving Up on Element and Matrix.org
#12from jabber/xmpp and back. time is a flat circle
Re: Giving Up on Element and Matrix.org
#13The issue of broken rooms was reportedly the database having gotten corrupted indexes, which affected a bunch of rooms (2/55 of ones I was in): https://github.com/element-hq/synapse/issues/18606#issuecomm....
Not much a protocol/implementation can do about that. It did take over 2 weeks for it to be resolved though, which is a rather long period of time.
Also on the status page - https://status.matrix.org/incidents/8gljb3gtlv11 (shows start at Jul 2, but I noticed it on Jun 28)
After that was resolved, messages that were sent and received by/on other homeservers during that time never ended up on matrix.org, so much for federation :/
Re: Giving Up on Element and Matrix.org
#14I said most of the same things in the Matrix foundation's server. The general response from the team was: "Pay money or shut up and accept what we give you". The number of gigantic changes in direction this project has had in the past couple of years is enough to sink any project. Jitsi to Webrtc, complete change in auth system, Element to Element X. There's two clients. One that's fast, and one that's full featured.…
> I try to be positive and supportive of project, but my experience with these guys is that they're incredibly arrogant.
This has been my experience with many FOSS projects in general. Don't even get me started on what happens when a fork emerges.
"They don't want open source, they want to be the ONLY source."
Re: Giving Up on Element and Matrix.org
#15I find Signal just unbeatable on all fronts: security, UX, ease of use, general thoughtfulness put into the product. It has the best simple media editor (for video clipping, blurring faces, compressing) I have ever seen casually built into the sending flow.
Every time I use anything, from MS Teams to Whatsapp, I find myself wishing they were more like Signal.
Re: Giving Up on Element and Matrix.org
#16I find Signal just unbeatable on all fronts: security, UX, ease of use, general thoughtfulness put into the product. It has the best simple media editor (for video clipping, blurring faces, compressing) I have ever seen casually built into the sending flow. Every time I use anything, from MS Teams to Whatsapp, I find myself wishing they were more like Signal.
Signal is the worst of them all when it comes to self hosting.
Re: Giving Up on Element and Matrix.org
#17I said most of the same things in the Matrix foundation's server. The general response from the team was: "Pay money or shut up and accept what we give you". The number of gigantic changes in direction this project has had in the past couple of years is enough to sink any project. Jitsi to Webrtc, complete change in auth system, Element to Element X. There's two clients. One that's fast, and one that's full featured.…
I guess it’s an old story. You can’t have pure tech guys guiding the ship.
Re: Giving Up on Element and Matrix.org
#18from jabber/xmpp and back. time is a flat circle
Why not just use jabber and omemo?
Re: Giving Up on Element and Matrix.org
#19I'm of the same stance. I've been using Matrix for 3 years now, primarily to communicate with family located where there is high censorship and most messengers are blocked. Probably due to the complexity of the system and inherent design, performance is horrible. Good enough for usage but just unpleasant. Their new Element X client is meant to solve a lot of problems but they're starting to deviate from common standa…
You can try monal xmpp. It's working great for my contacts. There are multiple servers that you can self host. On android you have better part is conversations. My entire family uses it.
Re: Giving Up on Element and Matrix.org
#20So what are the best alternatives?
Xmpp! Was and is