People also hate having to create a new username/password combination for every single web service they want to try.
But not enough to make me use Facebook and definitely not enough to even bother with Twitter.
Surprise: People hate being forced to use Facebook
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#12This statement can hardly be made with the numbers that participated in this. In addition the article isn't very good and the No - Spam option speaks more to users being wary of the application than facebook. This doesn't seem like the typical quality of article usually voted up on HN - I'd guess people just voted it up from the link title without reading (since people love to hate facebook).
The inspiration for the survey came from the numbers we were seeing on our site (across 10's of thousands of signups). There was a clear preference for signing up with email vs facebook. The in person survey is too small to provide meaningful numbers, but it was useful to hear real people's feedback and sentiment. I agree that it seems weird that people would rather give their email than facebook because they "don't…
I think the difference might be from the social stakes involved, if an app spams your friends then you publicly look bad, if you get a spam email nobody knows but you.
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#13Facebook has done a great job of ruining their app ecosystem. Many users are trained through embarrassing spam incidents to never trust Facebook apps.
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#14Unfortunately some companies are in bed with Facebook and it seems it gives them more than the additional users. For example Spotify - still allows only Facebook signups. The first quote on signup page is of course >. I'm definitely one who spent additional time to look for an alternative. Edit: As parbo noticed, they actually do allow email+password signups again. I completely missed the link when checking.
I've been using Rdio for a while now and really like it. I think Spotify's library is a bit larger but, like you, I hate being forced to sign up via Facebook.
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#15People also hate having to create a new username/password combination for every single web service they want to try.
But not enough to make me use Facebook and definitely not enough to even bother with Twitter.
Perhaps this is just luck on my part, but I don't think I've ever had a "Sign-in with Twitter" app spam un-authorized tweets on my behalf.
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#16People also hate having to create a new username/password combination for every single web service they want to try.
I'd say most people have one username/password combination they use for every service. On mobile devices, having to sign up with an email and password is a bit of a hassle, and Facebook/Twitter login makes more sense.
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#17Unfortunately some companies are in bed with Facebook and it seems it gives them more than the additional users. For example Spotify - still allows only Facebook signups. The first quote on signup page is of course >. I'm definitely one who spent additional time to look for an alternative. Edit: As parbo noticed, they actually do allow email+password signups again. I completely missed the link when checking.
Actually, it is now possible to sign up with only email. Not sure if it applies to all markets, but in the US you can.
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#18People also hate having to create a new username/password combination for every single web service they want to try.
Some people, but not this person. I like having a separate login for each web service. I keep each login in my password wallet so even I don't know the password. Using this approach, if a service gets compromised, I don't need to worry that my access will spread to other systems.
I also like email/password signups because I get to use different emails for each service. GMail helps with this since I can use johndoe+twitter@gmail.com and johndoe+facebook@gmail.com.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
But not enough to make me use Facebook and definitely not enough to even bother with Twitter.
Perhaps this is just luck on my part, but I don't think I've ever had a "Sign-in with Twitter" app spam un-authorized tweets on my behalf.
I agree, I'd much rather sign in with Twitter than facebook.
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#20Unfortunately some companies are in bed with Facebook and it seems it gives them more than the additional users. For example Spotify - still allows only Facebook signups. The first quote on signup page is of course >. I'm definitely one who spent additional time to look for an alternative. Edit: As parbo noticed, they actually do allow email+password signups again. I completely missed the link when checking.
I've been using Rdio for a while now and really like it. I think Spotify's library is a bit larger but, like you, I hate being forced to sign up via Facebook.
I chose Deezer some time ago... but Rdio sure changed lately - maybe I should give them another look. The last time I tried they had a poor choice in non-mainstream things, but it seems to have changed. (number of von zamla albums is my usual benchmark for the variety of available tracks) They still have weird listing issues though - having both Goran Bregovic and Bregovic, Goran for example.