I know it is not the exact topic, but sometimes I think we dont need the fastest response time but consistent response time. Like every single page within the site to be fully rendered with exactly 1s. Nothing more nothing less.
A 14kb page can load much faster than a 15kb page (2022)
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#12Fortunately, most websites include megabytes of bullshit, so it's not remotely a concern for them :D.
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#13Re: A 14kb page can load much faster than a 15kb page (2022)
#14Fortunately, most websites include megabytes of bullshit, so it's not remotely a concern for them :D.
I recently used an electric car charger where the charger is controlled by a mobile app that's basically a thin wrapper over a website. Unfortunately I only had a 0.25 Mb/s Internet plan at the time and it took me several minutes just staring at the splash screen as it was downloading JavaScript and other assets. Even when I got it to load, it hadn't managed to download all fonts. Truly an eye-opening experience.
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#15Re: A 14kb page can load much faster than a 15kb page (2022)
#16And now try to load the same website over HTTPS
> Also HTTPS requires two additional round trips before it can do the first one — which gets us up to 1836ms!
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#17I’d care about this if I was selling in India or Africa. If I’m selling to cash cows in America or Europe it’s not an issue at all. As long as you have >10mbps download across 90% of users I think it’s better to think about making money. Besides if you don’t know that lazy loading exists in 2025 fire yourself lol.
I think you’d be surprised to learn that Indian mobile speeds are pretty fast, at 133 mbps median. Ranked 26th in the world ( https://www.speedtest.net/global-index#mobile ).
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#18Aside from latency, reducing ressources consumption to the minimum required should always be a concern if we intend to have a sustainable future. The environmental impact of our network is not negligible. Given the snarky comments here, we clearly have a long way to go. EDIT: some reply missed my point, I am not claiming this particular optimization is the holy grail, only that I'd have liked for added benefit of red…
Re: A 14kb page can load much faster than a 15kb page (2022)
#19I’d care about this if I was selling in India or Africa. If I’m selling to cash cows in America or Europe it’s not an issue at all. As long as you have >10mbps download across 90% of users I think it’s better to think about making money. Besides if you don’t know that lazy loading exists in 2025 fire yourself lol.
It really depends on who your clients are and where they are. https://www.mcmaster.com/ was found last year to be doing some real magic to make it load literally as fast as possible for the crapiest computers possible.
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#20 ip route change default via dev initcwnd 20 initrwnd 20
A web search suggests CDNs are now at 30 packets for the initial window, so you get 45kb there.