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Extreme skydiver Baumgartner dies in paragliding accident

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Re: Extreme skydiver Baumgartner dies in paragliding accident

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Post by mschuster91 »

throwawayoldie wrote: post #5

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> In recent years, he made headlines of a different sort with controversial political statements, criticizing German and Austrian migration policies and opining that a "moderate dictatorship" would be preferable to a democracy, in which "you can't move anything."

That's putting it mildly. The full quote [1] is:

> Wie weit sind wir bereit unsere Identität und unsere Kultur aufzugeben und sie zu vermischen mit einer völlig anderen Religion und Ideologie?

or translated:

> How ready are we to give up our identity and culture and to mix it with a completely different religion and ideology?

That is 1:1 naked "great replacement" theory, the stuff that the vilest of the vile of the far-right believe in [2].

On top of that, he believed that domestic violence is acceptable in disciplining children [3].

[1] https://www.sn.at/salzburg/chronik/felix-baumgartner-wird-po...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Replacement_conspiracy_t...

[3] https://www.diepresse.com/1433977/felix-baumgartner-ohrfeige...

Re: Extreme skydiver Baumgartner dies in paragliding accident

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Post by RamblingCTO »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #7
RamblingCTO wrote: post #4

> He lost control of the craft and crashed into a swimming pool at a coastal resort, striking a young woman who was injured on impact. not cool

Some grace is needed, as a medical event was the root cause. edit: unexpected unconsciousness is not a medical event?

all we know is that we became unconscious, right?

Re: Extreme skydiver Baumgartner dies in paragliding accident

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Post by throwawayoldie »

happytoexplain wrote: post #8
throwawayoldie wrote: post #5

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I'm not familiar with the qualitative nature of the German/Austrian right wing right now (e.g. you can be an anti-immigration right winger without being Trumpian), but none of that sounds worthy of a dismissive attitude at face value. Obviously I would not be surprised if he was a typical asshole about things like this. I just don't like the usage of those political opinions in particular as "this is a bad person" ev…

> he recommended Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban for the Nobel Peace Prize

Re: Extreme skydiver Baumgartner dies in paragliding accident

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Post by mschuster91 »

happytoexplain wrote: post #8
throwawayoldie wrote: post #5

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I'm not familiar with the qualitative nature of the German/Austrian right wing right now (e.g. you can be an anti-immigration right winger without being Trumpian), but none of that sounds worthy of a dismissive attitude at face value. Obviously I would not be surprised if he was a typical asshole about things like this. I just don't like the usage of those political opinions in particular as "this is a bad person" ev…

That's because the stuff is wrapped in layers. Read the original quotes (I've translated in [1]), or run the German Wikipedia article through a translation engine [2].

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44597171

[2] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Baumgartner#Umstrittene_...

Re: Extreme skydiver Baumgartner dies in paragliding accident

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Post by mathiaspoint »

mschuster91 wrote: post #11
throwawayoldie wrote: post #5

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> In recent years, he made headlines of a different sort with controversial political statements, criticizing German and Austrian migration policies and opining that a "moderate dictatorship" would be preferable to a democracy, in which "you can't move anything." That's putting it mildly. The full quote [1] is: > Wie weit sind wir bereit unsere Identität und unsere Kultur aufzugeben und sie zu vermischen mit einer vö…

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Re: Extreme skydiver Baumgartner dies in paragliding accident

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Post by mschuster91 »

mathiaspoint wrote: post #17
mschuster91 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In recent years, he made headlines of a different sort with controversial political statements, criticizing German and Austrian migration policies and opining that a "moderate dictatorship" would be preferable to a democracy, in which "you can't move anything." That's putting it mildly. The full quote [1] is: > Wie weit sind wir bereit unsere Identität und unsere Kultur aufzugeben und sie zu vermischen mit einer vö…

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The "great replacement" theory is long-debunked hogwash.

Re: Extreme skydiver Baumgartner dies in paragliding accident

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Post by EA-3167 »

postsantum wrote: post #14

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He was on record advocating for dictatorship. I'm not saying that in a typically hyperbolic, social media sense either, he used the terminology himself. So yes, when a state news agency is announcing the death of someone who's major contributions have been some very impressive sporting achievements... and having political views that are fairly alarming coming from anyone, never mind an Austrian, it might come up. It wasn't a one-off either, he later pointed out Victor Orban as a model for how to handle government, immigration, etc.

If you want a eulogy I'd suggest seeking out the eulogy his family probably published, not a death announcement from DW.

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