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Heroku Isn't for Idiots
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Re: Heroku Isn't for Idiots
#12I love this post, and hope it keeps coming up. Some day, developers will learn that even though they could do it as well as Heroku, given enough time and effort, it's just a lot cheaper not to! This comes up all the time with my company. We make hosted Continous Integration ( https://circleci.com ), and often hear "can't I just set up Jenkins?". And the answer is the same, "you could, but ...". Run it on EC2, where y…
The persistence scaling story for Heroku seems pretty questionable to me. Once you've maxed out what they offer for MySQL and Postgres, what exactly are you supposed to do? Start using EC2 RDS? Heroku seems to be like a more useful Google App Engine, a good place to host a blog or experimental project if you're not into dev-ops. If you have a knack (at all) for dev-ops, you're not saving yourself anything. The downti…
> The persistence scaling story for Heroku seems pretty questionable to me.
Agree. Those people who tell horror stories about Heroku/EC2, usually give solid numbers, i.e. this was how much I spent, this is how much I save by moving away, and our response time is now X% faster.
On the other hand, we have article like this that shows pretty graph for a web app serving 16.2 requests per minute, and make bold claims that everything will scale.
Re: Heroku Isn't for Idiots
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
The persistence scaling story for Heroku seems pretty questionable to me. Once you've maxed out what they offer for MySQL and Postgres, what exactly are you supposed to do? Start using EC2 RDS? Heroku seems to be like a more useful Google App Engine, a good place to host a blog or experimental project if you're not into dev-ops. If you have a knack (at all) for dev-ops, you're not saving yourself anything. The downti…
> The persistence scaling story for Heroku seems pretty questionable to me. Agree. Those people who tell horror stories about Heroku/EC2, usually give solid numbers, i.e. this was how much I spent, this is how much I save by moving away, and our response time is now X% faster. On the other hand, we have article like this that shows pretty graph for a web app serving 16.2 requests per minute, and make bold claims that…
>16.2 requests per minute
Was it written in TCL? ;)
Re: Heroku Isn't for Idiots
#14I love this post, and hope it keeps coming up. Some day, developers will learn that even though they could do it as well as Heroku, given enough time and effort, it's just a lot cheaper not to! This comes up all the time with my company. We make hosted Continous Integration ( https://circleci.com ), and often hear "can't I just set up Jenkins?". And the answer is the same, "you could, but ...". Run it on EC2, where y…
The persistence scaling story for Heroku seems pretty questionable to me. Once you've maxed out what they offer for MySQL and Postgres, what exactly are you supposed to do? Start using EC2 RDS? Heroku seems to be like a more useful Google App Engine, a good place to host a blog or experimental project if you're not into dev-ops. If you have a knack (at all) for dev-ops, you're not saving yourself anything. The downti…
heretotroll: Heroku provides plenty of tunable capacity.
Re: Heroku Isn't for Idiots
#15I love this post, and hope it keeps coming up. Some day, developers will learn that even though they could do it as well as Heroku, given enough time and effort, it's just a lot cheaper not to! This comes up all the time with my company. We make hosted Continous Integration ( https://circleci.com ), and often hear "can't I just set up Jenkins?". And the answer is the same, "you could, but ...". Run it on EC2, where y…
The persistence scaling story for Heroku seems pretty questionable to me. Once you've maxed out what they offer for MySQL and Postgres, what exactly are you supposed to do? Start using EC2 RDS? Heroku seems to be like a more useful Google App Engine, a good place to host a blog or experimental project if you're not into dev-ops. If you have a knack (at all) for dev-ops, you're not saving yourself anything. The downti…
> Heroku seems to be like a more useful Google App Engine, a good place to host a blog or experimental project if you're not into dev-ops.
Considering Heroku is single-homed, I find it hilarious that you say it's less of a toy than GAE.
Re: Heroku Isn't for Idiots
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Heroku is Just Unix
At its core, Heroku is just a simple unix platform; specifically, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.
I just threw up a little
Re: Heroku Isn't for Idiots
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
The persistence scaling story for Heroku seems pretty questionable to me. Once you've maxed out what they offer for MySQL and Postgres, what exactly are you supposed to do? Start using EC2 RDS? Heroku seems to be like a more useful Google App Engine, a good place to host a blog or experimental project if you're not into dev-ops. If you have a knack (at all) for dev-ops, you're not saving yourself anything. The downti…
heretotroll: Heroku provides plenty of tunable capacity.
Considering their only support for sharding or replication is their async read-only slaves mechanism, I'm going to assume you don't know what you're talking about and think the difference between "1/10th of an overloaded EC2 machine running postgres" and "a whole slow EC2 machine running postgres" somehow constitutes "scalability".
Re: Heroku Isn't for Idiots
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
The persistence scaling story for Heroku seems pretty questionable to me. Once you've maxed out what they offer for MySQL and Postgres, what exactly are you supposed to do? Start using EC2 RDS? Heroku seems to be like a more useful Google App Engine, a good place to host a blog or experimental project if you're not into dev-ops. If you have a knack (at all) for dev-ops, you're not saving yourself anything. The downti…
> Heroku seems to be like a more useful Google App Engine, a good place to host a blog or experimental project if you're not into dev-ops. Considering Heroku is single-homed, I find it hilarious that you say it's less of a toy than GAE.
I was giving it the benefit of the doubt since there wasn't as much platform specific lock-in as GAE.
But yeah, the single-homing is pants-on-head.
Re: Heroku Isn't for Idiots
#19Heroku is Just Unix At its core, Heroku is just a simple unix platform; specifically, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. I just threw up a little
Why?
Re: Heroku Isn't for Idiots
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Heroku seems to be like a more useful Google App Engine, a good place to host a blog or experimental project if you're not into dev-ops. Considering Heroku is single-homed, I find it hilarious that you say it's less of a toy than GAE.
I was giving it the benefit of the doubt since there wasn't as much platform specific lock-in as GAE. But yeah, the single-homing is pants-on-head.
> there wasn't as much platform specific lock-in as GAE
You can always host your App Engine application on top of an AppScale or Typhoonae install.
I wish they were easier to set up, but, if your Google bill starts getting high, you can dedicate the resources required to do it. And multi-homing them is a whole different game.