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GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X

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Re: GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X

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Post by colmvp »

rcgs wrote: post #5
jfaucett wrote: post #3

I love it! GIMP is one of those tools that's "almost" a photohop killer, not quite yet, but this is a big step in the right direction. Good job GIMP team! As an asside, I think the plugin API and scheme joice is great and a blast to develope with I'd just like to see others jump on board. EDIT: I thought I'd add this since there seems to be a large discussion below as to the type of user for which GIMP is applicable.…

As someone who uses Photoshop almost every day, it's nowhere near a "photoshop killer". The workflow is still one of the worst I have stumbled across.

CS6 is the first Photoshop update in years where I'd say it has fixed a TON of problems that irked long-time Photoshop users.

Re: GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X

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Post by wtallis »

DanBC wrote: post #8
rcgs wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who uses Photoshop almost every day, it's nowhere near a "photoshop killer". The workflow is still one of the worst I have stumbled across.

For people who need to put some text on an image[1] or who need to tweak some minor stuff gimp is a "photoshop killer" - and it's nice to push people to legally free software rather than a pirate download of Photoshop. [1] But see this gimp document - the first returned hit in a search for [gimp drop shadow text] - which appears to be weirdly complex. http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/The_Basics/

At first glance, it doesn't seem like this Mac version is capable of using the system's installed fonts - only the fonts bundled with the app.

Re: GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X

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Post by eridius »

DanBC wrote: post #8
rcgs wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who uses Photoshop almost every day, it's nowhere near a "photoshop killer". The workflow is still one of the worst I have stumbled across.

For people who need to put some text on an image[1] or who need to tweak some minor stuff gimp is a "photoshop killer" - and it's nice to push people to legally free software rather than a pirate download of Photoshop. [1] But see this gimp document - the first returned hit in a search for [gimp drop shadow text] - which appears to be weirdly complex. http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/The_Basics/

If you need to do basic image editing on OS X I'd say use Acorn[1] or Pixelmator[2].

[1]: http://flyingmeat.com/acorn/

[2]: http://www.pixelmator.com

Re: GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X

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Post by sliverstorm »

wtallis wrote: post #7

So, is this an app that bundles it's own X11, or is it using a Quartz/Cocoa backend for GTK? EDIT: I downloaded it, and the app bundle doesn't seem to have an X11, so that's nice. However, upon firing it up, it throws up a splash screen in front of all other applications. Who still thinks that's acceptable behavior on a multitasking operating system? Also, the app quits when the last window is closed, which isn't how…

Who still thinks that's acceptable behavior

Adobe still does, and of all apps, GIMP is going to be one of the most likely to emulate them.

Re: GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X

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Post by adgar »

drats wrote: post #9
jfaucett wrote: post #3

I love it! GIMP is one of those tools that's "almost" a photohop killer, not quite yet, but this is a big step in the right direction. Good job GIMP team! As an asside, I think the plugin API and scheme joice is great and a blast to develope with I'd just like to see others jump on board. EDIT: I thought I'd add this since there seems to be a large discussion below as to the type of user for which GIMP is applicable.…

For anyone who's not doing graphics as their main job description it is a photoshop killer. Asides from integration with other Adobe products, print colour management and a few higher level features it has everything a person might need who's main job is not image processing. That's most of the "market" in terms of general home users and web designers who need to process photos and do logos etc. So while I imagine ph…

The users you describe typically pirate Photoshop in my experience.

Re: GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X

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Post by [deleted] »

wtallis wrote: post #7

So, is this an app that bundles it's own X11, or is it using a Quartz/Cocoa backend for GTK? EDIT: I downloaded it, and the app bundle doesn't seem to have an X11, so that's nice. However, upon firing it up, it throws up a splash screen in front of all other applications. Who still thinks that's acceptable behavior on a multitasking operating system? Also, the app quits when the last window is closed, which isn't how…

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Re: GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X

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Post by runako »

drats wrote: post #9
jfaucett wrote: post #3

I love it! GIMP is one of those tools that's "almost" a photohop killer, not quite yet, but this is a big step in the right direction. Good job GIMP team! As an asside, I think the plugin API and scheme joice is great and a blast to develope with I'd just like to see others jump on board. EDIT: I thought I'd add this since there seems to be a large discussion below as to the type of user for which GIMP is applicable.…

For anyone who's not doing graphics as their main job description it is a photoshop killer. Asides from integration with other Adobe products, print colour management and a few higher level features it has everything a person might need who's main job is not image processing. That's most of the "market" in terms of general home users and web designers who need to process photos and do logos etc. So while I imagine ph…

Disclaimer: I haven't used the most recent version of GIMP yet. Also, I'm not a designer and that colors my position.

What I've found to be the case in prior versions is that it's not sufficient for many minor edits, because it's not 100.0% compatible with the PSD file formats. Even 99% isn't enough in some cases, unfortunately. Since I'm typically editing a file created by a designer in Photoshop, and since I might need the designer to build on my changes, I don't trust anything less than 100.0% compatibility.

Re: GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X

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Post by sliverstorm »

DanBC wrote: post #8
rcgs wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who uses Photoshop almost every day, it's nowhere near a "photoshop killer". The workflow is still one of the worst I have stumbled across.

For people who need to put some text on an image[1] or who need to tweak some minor stuff gimp is a "photoshop killer" - and it's nice to push people to legally free software rather than a pirate download of Photoshop. [1] But see this gimp document - the first returned hit in a search for [gimp drop shadow text] - which appears to be weirdly complex. http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/The_Basics/

Eh, the only reason it's a photoshop killer for really simple edits is because photoshop is really kind of the wrong tool for such jobs anyway.

Re: GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X

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Post by armored_mammal »

dguaraglia wrote: post #6
armored_mammal wrote: post #2

Since it's 2.8 series it should have single-window mode, no?

Yep, it does Windows->Single-Window Mode. So. Much. Better.

Yeah, the multi-window thing only ever made sense for tiling window managers. And even with that it was a bit of a stretch.

That said, I don't think there's a more under-estimated or misunderstood program around.

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