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ICE Using Border Facial Recognition Tech to ID Protesters and Activists in US

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Re: ICE Using Border Facial Recognition Tech to ID Protesters and Activists in US

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Looks like we'll be the ones wearing masks soon.

I'm starting to think the reason they wear masks all the time is projection, once again. They know what they're doing and it frames their perception.

This is the same group that thinks wearing masks is oppression in other contexts.

Re: ICE Using Border Facial Recognition Tech to ID Protesters and Activists in US

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They are doing it because they can. Linking it to one side of the political debate is an unhelpful straw man. As an example the openly political tone of the article makes me trust it less.

> Linking it to one side of the political debate is an unhelpful straw man.

Would you care to elaborate? To me, it looks an awful lot like one of the single most partisan issues of present times.

Re: ICE Using Border Facial Recognition Tech to ID Protesters and Activists in US

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"Everything else — the CBO score, the proper baseline, the minutiae of the Medicaid policy — is immaterial compared to the ICE money and immigration enforcement provisions." - VP JD Vance, as the budget reconciliation bill was approaching final passage in the House. The policy has been clearly stated. Getting rid of immigrants is the one and only priority. Health care policy does not matter. Budget policy does not ma…

Even “Immigration policy” is a Trojan horse of priority if ICE is squaring up against protestors and activists.

Re: ICE Using Border Facial Recognition Tech to ID Protesters and Activists in US

#16

Looks like we'll be the ones wearing masks soon.

> “ Looks like we'll be the ones wearing masks soon.”

Not if you live in Nassau County, NY where it’s a misdemeanor to wear a mask to conceal your identity (8/2024)

https://www.nassaucountyny.gov/AgendaCenter/ViewFile/Item/31...

Re: ICE Using Border Facial Recognition Tech to ID Protesters and Activists in US

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post #14

They are doing it because they can. Linking it to one side of the political debate is an unhelpful straw man. As an example the openly political tone of the article makes me trust it less.

> Linking it to one side of the political debate is an unhelpful straw man. Would you care to elaborate? To me, it looks an awful lot like one of the single most partisan issues of present times.

What? Law enforcement abusing privacy?

Maybe you mean immigration. Do the democrats want 11 million illegal immigrants in the country? Maybe that's the reason they're no longer in power.

Re: ICE Using Border Facial Recognition Tech to ID Protesters and Activists in US

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"Everything else — the CBO score, the proper baseline, the minutiae of the Medicaid policy — is immaterial compared to the ICE money and immigration enforcement provisions." - VP JD Vance, as the budget reconciliation bill was approaching final passage in the House. The policy has been clearly stated. Getting rid of immigrants is the one and only priority. Health care policy does not matter. Budget policy does not ma…

Even “Immigration policy” is a Trojan horse of priority if ICE is squaring up against protestors and activists.

Absolutely. Ideological alignment is increasingly mandatory. As they run out of immigrants to persecute, the ideologically "impure" will become the main target.

Re: ICE Using Border Facial Recognition Tech to ID Protesters and Activists in US

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We have "police must identify themselves" baked into the public consciousness to the level that the drunkest guy in the Saturday night holding cells still manages to belt out "What's yer badge number?" ICE is scared of accountability.

Accountability is part of it, but I think the bigger part of that is how it terrorizes people to be (or see others) swept up by a gang of unidentified thugs.

It's all interconnected. Getting grabbed by a gang of masked thugs is terrifying because you have no idea what is going to happen to you.

When you're grabbed by uniformed officers who identify themselves, you have some foreknowledge of the process you're entering into. The process is not perfect and it can still harm you greatly, but there's rules and at least some of them are likely to be followed. There's accountability, and that accountability gives you some assurance.

You can't make those assumptions about a gang of masked thugs.

Re: ICE Using Border Facial Recognition Tech to ID Protesters and Activists in US

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They are doing it because they can. Linking it to one side of the political debate is an unhelpful straw man. As an example the openly political tone of the article makes me trust it less.

there's only one side of the political "debate" (such as it is) that is going full fascist, but go ahead, keep pretending this is a both sides issue
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