Dr. Paul Beckwith (regular COP speaker) video on SMOC reversal: https://youtu.be/12Ch-NIYxvQ
Southern Ocean Circulation Reversed
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#13Critical take: https://wattsupwiththat.com/2025/07/06/ocean-reversal-hyster...
This isn't a critical take, it's a cynical one. It's a climate change denial site. Suggest not bothering to follow this link, it's intellectually lazy. The central claims that the article's information isn't anywhere in the study. Which is misleading: the researchers have said these things elsewhere about the research in the study.
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#14Critical take: https://wattsupwiththat.com/2025/07/06/ocean-reversal-hyster...
Just for the chuckle value, a critical critical take:
Willis Eschenbach
Credentials
California Massage Certificate, Aames School of Massage, Oakland, CA. (1974).
B.A., Psychology, Sonoma State University, Rohnert Park, CA. (1975).
Background
Willis Eschenbach is a regular speaker at the Heartland Institute‘s International Conference on Climate Change, where he is described as a “carpenter and house builder” as well as an “amateur scientist.”
Eschenbach has previously worked as a Construction Manager at Taunovo Bay Resort in Fiji, Sport Fishing guide in Alaska, and more recently as an Accounts/IT Senior Manager with South Pacific Oil.
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#15I was interested to know how they measure water salinity from space, but the ESA page isn't very informative.
https://www.esa.int/Applications/Observing_the_Earth/FutureE...
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#16I suspect this won't be up here long, HN has a pretty strong but unofficial and "community" enforced policy against bad news, especially relating to climate. But that won't be an issue for long since climate change data will soon continually start disappearing. I seriously never imagined that we would lose Mauna Loa [0], which we might. Given that even in this community, which is relatively data/science literate, the…
are we reading the the same HN? mine has climate soapboxing in every other thread.
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#17Critical take: https://wattsupwiththat.com/2025/07/06/ocean-reversal-hyster...
Just for the chuckle value, a critical critical take: Willis Eschenbach Credentials California Massage Certificate, Aames School of Massage, Oakland, CA. (1974). B.A., Psychology, Sonoma State University, Rohnert Park, CA. (1975). Background Willis Eschenbach is a regular speaker at the Heartland Institute‘s International Conference on Climate Change, where he is described as a “carpenter and house builder” as well a…
Yes, I know, credentialism means you must immediately ignore anything he has to say. Yet he writes papers on climate science, especially on the effects of volcanic eruptions, and he does a better job of archiving code and data (and documenting how he sources the data) than most. Maybe you should try reading what I linked.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just for the chuckle value, a critical critical take: Willis Eschenbach Credentials California Massage Certificate, Aames School of Massage, Oakland, CA. (1974). B.A., Psychology, Sonoma State University, Rohnert Park, CA. (1975). Background Willis Eschenbach is a regular speaker at the Heartland Institute‘s International Conference on Climate Change, where he is described as a “carpenter and house builder” as well a…
Yes, I know, credentialism means you must immediately ignore anything he has to say. Yet he writes papers on climate science, especially on the effects of volcanic eruptions, and he does a better job of archiving code and data (and documenting how he sources the data) than most. Maybe you should try reading what I linked.
what are you seeing in this article?
to me it looks like bog standard conspiracy drivel...
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, I know, credentialism means you must immediately ignore anything he has to say. Yet he writes papers on climate science, especially on the effects of volcanic eruptions, and he does a better job of archiving code and data (and documenting how he sources the data) than most. Maybe you should try reading what I linked.
what are you seeing in this article? to me it looks like bog standard conspiracy drivel...
The article I linked says that the _paper_ that TFA refers to[0] says nothing about a reversal of the current, only a reversal of the freshening of surface water on the polar southern ocean. Is that not indeed a correct reading of the underlying paper? That's a simple yes or no question. See for yourself[0]!