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Goodbye to All That – My Resignation from the FBI

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Re: Goodbye to All That – My Resignation from the FBI

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Post by Fogest »

He is concerned about the politician of the FBI, yet it has already been used as a political weapon long before Trump's current reign. Did FBI not raid journalists involved in covering the Hunter Biden laptop story and attempt to aid in covering this up? That's one large example of the past politically charged actions from the FBI that occurred prior to Trump against the "right".

It seems that his problem is that he does not agree with it now being used against the "side" he stands with, rather than that he disagrees with it being used politically at all. I'd agree that it often is used for political purposes, but I would not agree that this only started in Trump's current term. It's been used by both sides in this way.

Re: Goodbye to All That – My Resignation from the FBI

#13

Post by kcplate »

> How did Bongino find out about this private friendship? I honestly don’t know.

So this dude literally worked for THE US domestic intelligence gathering agency and he has no idea how they found out about his friendship to someone who has been all over the news for 9 years for his investigative targeting of the current president?

I mean demotion due to the friendship…or perhaps he is just not the brightest bulb in the bureau?

Re: Goodbye to All That – My Resignation from the FBI

#14

Post by mc32 »

masfuerte wrote: post #9
ghufran_syed wrote: post #5

So…they wanted him to take a polygraph interview regarding the nature of his relationship with Peter Strzok, and he resigned instead, did I understand that correctly?

He was a senior G-man. He knows the polygraph is bullshit.

True, but you also have former agents who complain that they get fired for things w/o having taken a poly. So, it seems, for some, passing a poly as proof they don’t do something wrong is important.

Re: Goodbye to All That – My Resignation from the FBI

#15

Post by efitz »

Articles like this are always self serving. We only know details that the author chose to expose and we only have the authors word that those were the only and true reason for the action.

I am skeptical that I am hearing a complete and true accounting of the facts and reasons for the action.

Note that I am not impugning the author, but everyone is the hero or the victim of their own story, and even if everything said was a true and complete accounting of the author’s experience, there might have been reasons (good or nefarious) for the action that were not disclosed to them.

Re: Goodbye to All That – My Resignation from the FBI

#16

Post by ctoth »

efitz wrote: post #15

Articles like this are always self serving. We only know details that the author chose to expose and we only have the authors word that those were the only and true reason for the action. I am skeptical that I am hearing a complete and true accounting of the facts and reasons for the action. Note that I am not impugning the author, but everyone is the hero or the victim of their own story, and even if everything said…

What is the reason you wrote your comment?

Like, if life were a narrative, who would you be?

Re: Goodbye to All That – My Resignation from the FBI

#17

Post by jmye »

Fogest wrote: post #11

He is concerned about the politician of the FBI, yet it has already been used as a political weapon long before Trump's current reign. Did FBI not raid journalists involved in covering the Hunter Biden laptop story and attempt to aid in covering this up? That's one large example of the past politically charged actions from the FBI that occurred prior to Trump against the "right". It seems that his problem is that he…

> Did FBI not raid journalists involved in covering the Hunter Biden laptop story and attempt to aid in covering this up?

Did they? Why not just assert what you believe, instead of giving it this weird air of deniability?

Do you believe that the Hunter Biden “story” is similar or dissimilar to firing political and personal enemies of appointees?

Re: Goodbye to All That – My Resignation from the FBI

#18

Post by jmye »

kcplate wrote: post #13

> How did Bongino find out about this private friendship? I honestly don’t know. So this dude literally worked for THE US domestic intelligence gathering agency and he has no idea how they found out about his friendship to someone who has been all over the news for 9 years for his investigative targeting of the current president? I mean demotion due to the friendship…or perhaps he is just not the brightest bulb in th…

I don’t take it as “I can’t fathom how this happened” so much as “I don’t know, specifically, if I was being investigated, if he was, or if this was just ancillary capriciousness”.

Seems weird to immediately assume he’s stupider than you are.

Re: Goodbye to All That – My Resignation from the FBI

#19

Post by Fogest »

jmye wrote: post #17
Fogest wrote: post #11

He is concerned about the politician of the FBI, yet it has already been used as a political weapon long before Trump's current reign. Did FBI not raid journalists involved in covering the Hunter Biden laptop story and attempt to aid in covering this up? That's one large example of the past politically charged actions from the FBI that occurred prior to Trump against the "right". It seems that his problem is that he…

> Did FBI not raid journalists involved in covering the Hunter Biden laptop story and attempt to aid in covering this up? Did they? Why not just assert what you believe, instead of giving it this weird air of deniability? Do you believe that the Hunter Biden “story” is similar or dissimilar to firing political and personal enemies of appointees?

I'd say they are both bad, though I actually view it as worse when going after journalists, especially when it relates to a story surrounding the family of a politician running for president. The FBI also lied to social media companies in order to get them to remove stories about it, despite knowing the story was true: https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/testimony-r...

And here is the story about the raid of the journalist: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/11/13/raid-veritas-okeefe...

Re: Goodbye to All That – My Resignation from the FBI

#20

Post by kcplate »

jmye wrote: post #18
kcplate wrote: post #13

> How did Bongino find out about this private friendship? I honestly don’t know. So this dude literally worked for THE US domestic intelligence gathering agency and he has no idea how they found out about his friendship to someone who has been all over the news for 9 years for his investigative targeting of the current president? I mean demotion due to the friendship…or perhaps he is just not the brightest bulb in th…

I don’t take it as “I can’t fathom how this happened” so much as “I don’t know, specifically, if I was being investigated, if he was, or if this was just ancillary capriciousness”. Seems weird to immediately assume he’s stupider than you are.

I didn’t write those words and choose to publish them, he chose to do that.

Whether it’s meant as: “Can’t fathom how this happened”, “I don’t know how, specifically”, or “I can’t imagine how they found out”…it’s a totally boneheaded thing to write and publicly publish if you are an FBI agent. We make assessments about people’s capabilities every day based on what they say and do. This is no different.

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