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QSBS Limits Raised

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Re: QSBS Limits Raised

#11
This applies per person. When startup founders realize their stock is actually worth a lot they form trusts and each one gets QSBS. Each trust must be to a different person.

I personally know people who stack 5-10 trusts for as many family members as they can. This appears to give them 50% more tax-free money (10 to 15 million) per person in their trusts.

Re: QSBS Limits Raised

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post #11

This applies per person. When startup founders realize their stock is actually worth a lot they form trusts and each one gets QSBS. Each trust must be to a different person. I personally know people who stack 5-10 trusts for as many family members as they can. This appears to give them 50% more tax-free money (10 to 15 million) per person in their trusts.

I actually just wrote about this in more detail last week: https://mrsteinberg.com/how-to-not-pay-your-taxes-legally-ap...

Re: QSBS Limits Raised

#13
Don't forget QSBS benefits for investors. The exclusion limit is 10x invstment. If you invested $20 million (in a startup valued under $50 million), you could exclude up to $200 million in capital gains. It has to be a person, not a corporation who invests. I believe this would apply to the VCs, since you are getting money from a partnership fund. I could be wrong though.

Re: QSBS Limits Raised

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So it applies to a situation when you hold stock of a company that's large enough to issue stock, but is, and has always been, small enough to never have more than $50M in assets, and you must hold the stock for at least 5 years. How common is that?

This also applies for options exercised before the company reaches $50M in assets. And then the gain from a valuation from $50M to say $1B is all excluded.

Not just exercised, but bought before the company reaches $50M in assets.

Re: QSBS Limits Raised

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Its funny. Generally, people in the startup world frowned on this bill because of the cuts to essential services. Nonetheless, we’re thrilled about the expansion of QSBS. Perhaps there’s always a silver lining.

Re: QSBS Limits Raised

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post #3

So it applies to a situation when you hold stock of a company that's large enough to issue stock, but is, and has always been, small enough to never have more than $50M in assets, and you must hold the stock for at least 5 years. How common is that?

A company doesn't need to be large to issue stock. Stock was issued to all the founders as part of incorporating our company. More stock was issued when we raised money.

Re: QSBS Limits Raised

#17

Its funny. Generally, people in the startup world frowned on this bill because of the cuts to essential services. Nonetheless, we’re thrilled about the expansion of QSBS. Perhaps there’s always a silver lining.

You will never find a large bill like this that is all good or all bad.

There are so many provisions that you should have mixed opinions about them. The evaluation of the bill as a whole should be whether or not the tradeoffs are reasonable.

Re: QSBS Limits Raised

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This also applies for options exercised before the company reaches $50M in assets. And then the gain from a valuation from $50M to say $1B is all excluded.

Not just exercised, but bought before the company reaches $50M in assets.

IANAL but I believe the option has to be exercised before the company reaches $50M in assets—that’s when you buy the stock.

Re: QSBS Limits Raised

#20

Its funny. Generally, people in the startup world frowned on this bill because of the cuts to essential services. Nonetheless, we’re thrilled about the expansion of QSBS. Perhaps there’s always a silver lining.

Section 174 being revoked (for US based R&D) is probably an even larger immediate benefit.
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