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Cloudflare Introduces Default Blocking of A.I. Data Scrapers

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Re: Cloudflare Introduces Default Blocking of A.I. Data Scrapers

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  > When you enable this feature via a pre-configured managed rule, Cloudflare can detect and block verified AI bots that comply with robots.txt and respect crawl rates, and do not hide their behavior from your website. The rule has also been expanded to include more signatures of AI bots that do not follow the rules.
We already know companies like Perplexity are masking their traffic. I'm sure there's more than meets the eye, but taking this at face value, doesn't punishing respectful and transparent bots only incentivize obfuscation?

edit: This link[0], posted in a comment elsewhere, addresses this question. tldr, obfuscation doesn't work.

  > We leverage Cloudflare global signals to calculate our Bot Score, which for AI bots like the one above, reflects that we correctly identify and score them as a “likely bot.”

  > When bad actors attempt to crawl websites at scale, they generally use tools and frameworks that we are able to fingerprint. For every fingerprint we see, we use Cloudflare’s network, which sees over 57 million requests per second on average, to understand how much we should trust this fingerprint. To power our models, we compute global aggregates across many signals. Based on these signals, our models were able to appropriately flag traffic from evasive AI bots, like the example mentioned above, as bots.

[0] https://blog.cloudflare.com/declaring-your-aindependence-blo...

Re: Cloudflare Introduces Default Blocking of A.I. Data Scrapers

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> Cloudflare can detect and block verified AI bots that comply with robots.txt and respect crawl rates, and do not hide their behavior from your website

It's the bots that do hide their behavior -- via residential proxy services -- that are causing most of the burden, for my site anyway. Not these large commercial AI vendors.

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#13
> If A.I. companies freely use data from various websites without permission or payment, people will be discouraged from creating new digital content

I don't see a way out of this happening. AI fundamentally discourages other forms of digital interaction as it grows.

Its mechanism of growing is killing other kinds of digital content. It will eventually kill the web, which is, ironically, its main source of food.

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#14
I turned this on and it adjusts the robots.txt automatically; not sure what else it is doing.

# NOTICE: The collection of content and other data on this # site through automated means, including any device, tool, # or process designed to data mine or scrape content, is # prohibited except (1) for the purpose of search engine indexing or # artificial intelligence retrieval augmented generation or (2) with express # written permission from this site’s operator.

# To request permission to license our intellectual # property and/or other materials, please contact this # site’s operator directly.

# BEGIN Cloudflare Managed content

User-agent: Amazonbot Disallow: /

User-agent: Applebot-Extended Disallow: /

User-agent: Bytespider Disallow: /

User-agent: CCBot Disallow: /

User-agent: ClaudeBot Disallow: /

User-agent: Google-Extended Disallow: /

User-agent: GPTBot Disallow: /

User-agent: meta-externalagent Disallow: /

# END Cloudflare Managed Content User-agent: * Disallow: /* Allow: /$

Re: Cloudflare Introduces Default Blocking of A.I. Data Scrapers

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post #10

The headline is somewhat misleading: sites using Cloudflare now have an opt-in option to quickly block all AI bots, but it won't be turned on by default for sites using Cloudflare. The idea that Cloudflare could do the latter at the sole discretion of its leadership, though, is indicative of the level of power Cloudflare holds.

It is now an adversarial relationship between aibots and website, and cloudflare is merely reacting to it.

Would you say the same for ddos protection? Isn't that the same as well?

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#17
post #9

Do the major AI companies actually honor robots.txt? Even if some of their publicly known crawlers might do it, surely they have surreptitious campaigns where they do some hidden crawling, just like how they illegally pirate books, images and user data to train on.

There's a lack of clarity, but it seems likely to me that a majority of this traffic is actually people asking questions to the AI, and the AI going out and researching for answers. When the AI tools are being used like a web browser to do research, should they still be adhering to robots.txt, or is that only intended for search indexing?

Re: Cloudflare Introduces Default Blocking of A.I. Data Scrapers

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post #9

Do the major AI companies actually honor robots.txt? Even if some of their publicly known crawlers might do it, surely they have surreptitious campaigns where they do some hidden crawling, just like how they illegally pirate books, images and user data to train on.

My thought too, honoring robots.txt is just a convention. There's no requirement to follow robots.txt, or at least certainly no technical requirement. I don't think there's any automatic legal requirement either.

Maybe sites could add "you must honor policies set in robots.txt" to something like a terms of service but I have no idea if that would have enough teeth for a crawler to give up.

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