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'Unprecedented' alerts in France as blistering heat grips Europe

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Re: 'Unprecedented' alerts in France as blistering heat grips Europe

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Post by dustincoates »

cpa wrote: post #5
sandspar wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How common is air conditioning in Paris? What proportion of homes have air conditioning, either built-in or portable? How about businesses? Does Paris have sufficient "cooling stations", as in, large, air conditioned, public-friendly businesses like malls or community centers?

Fairly uncommon in homes (although I wouldn't go as far as the sibling comment that it's only for very upscale homes—I know plenty of people who are getting equipped). Because the unit has to be outside, there are many historic buildings where you can't install AC. It's less of a problem in other parts of France. Businesses open to the public and offices almost universally have AC, though, except maybe for mom and po…

Some offices are better than other when it comes up AC. My last regular office would turn the AC off for the entire floor if any windows were open. But then the meeting rooms would get stuffy, and people would open windows, so there effectively was no AC.

The best place to go during weather like this is actually a grocery store: Picard, which only sells frozen food and so you get the escaped chill from the freezers.

Re: 'Unprecedented' alerts in France as blistering heat grips Europe

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Post by mslansn »

cpa wrote: post #5
sandspar wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How common is air conditioning in Paris? What proportion of homes have air conditioning, either built-in or portable? How about businesses? Does Paris have sufficient "cooling stations", as in, large, air conditioned, public-friendly businesses like malls or community centers?

Fairly uncommon in homes (although I wouldn't go as far as the sibling comment that it's only for very upscale homes—I know plenty of people who are getting equipped). Because the unit has to be outside, there are many historic buildings where you can't install AC. It's less of a problem in other parts of France. Businesses open to the public and offices almost universally have AC, though, except maybe for mom and po…

Paris has many historic buildings, but it’s not like the average Joe lives in any of those.

Re: 'Unprecedented' alerts in France as blistering heat grips Europe

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Post by moi2388 »

moeffju wrote: post #10
tempera wrote: post #9

Normal summer weather is used to install anxiety in the minds of the populace, so they will easier accept future draconian measures.

There is nothing normal about this, as you can easily verify by looking at recorded weather history.

I don’t know what you’re talking about. I’ve had these temperatures in summer as a child in the same location I am now.

Re: 'Unprecedented' alerts in France as blistering heat grips Europe

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Post by sigmar »

tempera wrote: post #9

Normal summer weather is used to install anxiety in the minds of the populace, so they will easier accept future draconian measures.

40 C is extremely high for Paris. Why lie about information that is easy to lookup? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extreme_temperatures_i...

Re: 'Unprecedented' alerts in France as blistering heat grips Europe

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Post by mslansn »

moeffju wrote: post #10
tempera wrote: post #9

Normal summer weather is used to install anxiety in the minds of the populace, so they will easier accept future draconian measures.

There is nothing normal about this, as you can easily verify by looking at recorded weather history.

It would seem foolish to trust the temperature records from the same people who want to install draconian measures using temperatures as an excuse.

Re: 'Unprecedented' alerts in France as blistering heat grips Europe

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Post by 1718627440 »

mslansn wrote: post #16
moeffju wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is nothing normal about this, as you can easily verify by looking at recorded weather history.

It would seem foolish to trust the temperature records from the same people who want to install draconian measures using temperatures as an excuse.

How do you define "the same people"? Everyone who publishes weather data?

What agenda do you think people have that are long dead?

If you distrust everything you can measure it yourself. I am still in youth and even I can see changes myself. There used to be snow in the winter and now it's rare for example. Yes that is weather not climate; I don't live long enough to see climate changes. But there are oil paintings from 300 years ago. Are these fake?

Genuine question: How do you know, that people who know climate change is made-up are trustworthy and don't have their own agenda?

Re: 'Unprecedented' alerts in France as blistering heat grips Europe

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Post by 1718627440 »

mslansn wrote: post #16
moeffju wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is nothing normal about this, as you can easily verify by looking at recorded weather history.

It would seem foolish to trust the temperature records from the same people who want to install draconian measures using temperatures as an excuse.

What "draconian measures"? Planting trees and installing water fountains?

Re: 'Unprecedented' alerts in France as blistering heat grips Europe

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Post by treetalker »

Currently in Versailles in a hotel without air conditioning (albeit on the shady north side of the building). During the day it's not so bad with the windows closed, drapes drawn, and tabletop fan. (Speaking as someone accustomed to Florida temperatures, humidity, and widely available air conditioning.)

In the evening, say 19h00, the sun is low and it's quite pleasant out. ("It's a dry heat," as we say!) I always forget how far north Paris and Versailles are: the sky still has some light past 22h30 this time of year.

Keep cool and stay safe, mes amis !

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