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What Does a Post-Google Internet Look Like?

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Re: What Does a Post-Google Internet Look Like?

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Post by notnullorvoid »

Havoc wrote: post #9
dzonga wrote: post #4

for now - we can identify AI slop. in the future - yeah interaction will be at a premium and that includes all textual content - since you can't trust whether it was generated by AI or not. which means books / content pre-AI gonna more valuable. Later on things will need to be human curated.

If you genuinely can’t tell the difference anymore is there any motivation to pay a premium?

It depends, can you not tell the difference because you don't know better, or you can't tell the difference because the quality and accuracy is actually good.

Re: What Does a Post-Google Internet Look Like?

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Post by blacksmith_tb »

> "The internet is going to return to more of its original roots, which are niche fan websites you largely find through social media or word of mouth"

Ok, that sounds possible, and not so bad...

> "Very few of them are going to survive... it costs a lot of money to pay people to write high quality content"

That may also be true, but doesn't really jibe with the image of the early 'net?

Re: What Does a Post-Google Internet Look Like?

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Post by theodorewiles »

I think end state is LLM-facilitated micropayments. One vast clearinghouse / marketplace of human-generated up to date content. Contributors get paid based on whether LLMs called their content via some kind of RAG. Maybe there are multiple aggregators / publishers.

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Post by hiccuphippo »

notnullorvoid wrote: post #11
Havoc wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you genuinely can’t tell the difference anymore is there any motivation to pay a premium?

It depends, can you not tell the difference because you don't know better, or you can't tell the difference because the quality and accuracy is actually good.

https://xkcd.com/810/

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Post by hiccuphippo »

bigfishrunning wrote: post #10
Havoc wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you genuinely can’t tell the difference anymore is there any motivation to pay a premium?

Only to keep human authors employed -- Once an art is lost, it's lost, and the llm cartel can only continue to operate at a loss for so long before the piper needs paid

Human authors will not write but direct the AIs on what to write. Then they'll syndicate that to AI companies so they can keep their AI fresh. Like an ouroboros eating its own tail.

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Post by weregiraffe »

blacksmith_tb wrote: post #12

> "The internet is going to return to more of its original roots, which are niche fan websites you largely find through social media or word of mouth" Ok, that sounds possible, and not so bad... > "Very few of them are going to survive... it costs a lot of money to pay people to write high quality content" That may also be true, but doesn't really jibe with the image of the early 'net?

Early net was tiny.

Re: What Does a Post-Google Internet Look Like?

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Post by hdjdbdirbrbtv »

weregiraffe wrote: post #16
blacksmith_tb wrote: post #12

> "The internet is going to return to more of its original roots, which are niche fan websites you largely find through social media or word of mouth" Ok, that sounds possible, and not so bad... > "Very few of them are going to survive... it costs a lot of money to pay people to write high quality content" That may also be true, but doesn't really jibe with the image of the early 'net?

Early net was tiny.

But also unfathomably large because of the speed at which you could consume it was measured in kbps....

Re: What Does a Post-Google Internet Look Like?

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Post by raxxorraxor »

xg15 wrote: post #3

Tell me again how LLMs were going to make everything better?

I use them for coding and other AI for image/video generation. It is awesome.

But I have yet to see a convincing consumer product leveraging LLM AI. In our company it prefilters support mails. Tries to connect customer requests to customer information in our databases. Maybe connect device information if a mail contains serial numberes. Some convenient stuff here and there to provide more context, but it certainly doesn't have any critical roles.

And developing LLM services takes a huge amount of time, comparable to other software projects.

Re: What Does a Post-Google Internet Look Like?

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Post by homeonthemtn »

Yes and there will still be a "free" version of content somewhere because not everyone will pay those prices (because they can't afford them or didn't know the value of a premium service).

So since there will be a demand, someone will produce "free resources" which will be the equivalent of a sewage outlet running into the sea.

Absolute garbage of an AI ouroborus just churning in on itself to aggregate and produce something for whatever this free channel of content ends up being.

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