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Many ransomware strains will abort if they detect a Russian keyboard installed (2021)

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Re: Many ransomware strains will abort if they detect a Russian keyboard installed (2021)

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I wonder if Ukraine has been removed from the exclusion list since then. A quick Google search says that the keyboards layouts are different from Russian keyboards.

I was thinking the same thing.

Seems like the safest would be standard Russian keyboard layout (or maybe just adding the reg keys mentioned)

Also makes me wonder if installing a specific Chinese keyboard could have the same effect (for Chinese made ransomware or maybe even North Korean). Or perhaps they do other checks ?

Re: Many ransomware strains will abort if they detect a Russian keyboard installed (2021)

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The best anti malware on any version of windows has always been to make your default account you use everyday a non admin account.

You also need to create a separate account (can just be a local account) that is a full administrator. Make sure you use a different password.

Anytime you need to install something or run powershell/CMD as admin it will popup and ask for the separate login of the admin account. This is basically the default of how Linux works (sudo). It's also how any competent professional IT department will run windows.

If an admin elevation popup happens when you haven't triggered it then you probably know something is wrong. And most malware will not be able to install.

Another benefit is that you can use a relatively normal (but obviously not too short) password for your regular account and then have something much more complicated for the admin login. This is especially great on something like "Grandmas PC" or anyone who is at higher risk of clicking on the wrong thing.

Re: Many ransomware strains will abort if they detect a Russian keyboard installed (2021)

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The best anti malware on any version of windows has always been to make your default account you use everyday a non admin account. You also need to create a separate account (can just be a local account) that is a full administrator. Make sure you use a different password. Anytime you need to install something or run powershell/CMD as admin it will popup and ask for the separate login of the admin account. This is ba…

Or you know... just use Linux

Re: Many ransomware strains will abort if they detect a Russian keyboard installed (2021)

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The best anti malware on any version of windows has always been to make your default account you use everyday a non admin account. You also need to create a separate account (can just be a local account) that is a full administrator. Make sure you use a different password. Anytime you need to install something or run powershell/CMD as admin it will popup and ask for the separate login of the admin account. This is ba…

It sounds like you just described what User Account Control (UAC) has been doing since Windows Vista (2006).

Re: Many ransomware strains will abort if they detect a Russian keyboard installed (2021)

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The best anti malware on any version of windows has always been to make your default account you use everyday a non admin account. You also need to create a separate account (can just be a local account) that is a full administrator. Make sure you use a different password. Anytime you need to install something or run powershell/CMD as admin it will popup and ask for the separate login of the admin account. This is ba…

Or you know... just use Linux

I've got a snap installed, I think it's for the google command line tools. It will quite often at random times pop up a window in KDE asking for the admin password, and there is nothing in that window that tells me what or why the admin password is needed.

Decided it was a risk to just be typing the admin password whenever a random popup asked me to, so disabled all snap automatic updates.

Re: Many ransomware strains will abort if they detect a Russian keyboard installed (2021)

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The best anti malware on any version of windows has always been to make your default account you use everyday a non admin account. You also need to create a separate account (can just be a local account) that is a full administrator. Make sure you use a different password. Anytime you need to install something or run powershell/CMD as admin it will popup and ask for the separate login of the admin account. This is ba…

Or you know... just use Linux

Every couple of years I give daily driving Linux a try. I still find that old joke about "Linux is only free if your time is worth nothing" to be quite apt.

Re: Many ransomware strains will abort if they detect a Russian keyboard installed (2021)

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If you make your machine look like a malware execution sandbox, a lot of malware will terminate to avoid being analyzed. This is just part of the cat and mouse game.

Put VirtualBox strings in your firmware :)

Yes, and don't forget to install the VirtualBox guest extensions in your host machine to make it looks even more like a VM!

Re: Many ransomware strains will abort if they detect a Russian keyboard installed (2021)

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The best anti malware on any version of windows has always been to make your default account you use everyday a non admin account. You also need to create a separate account (can just be a local account) that is a full administrator. Make sure you use a different password. Anytime you need to install something or run powershell/CMD as admin it will popup and ask for the separate login of the admin account. This is ba…

> The best anti malware on any version of windows has always been to make your default account you use everyday a non admin account.

In the early 2000s up thru about 2012 I'd agree with you. Post-Vista malware adapted to UAC and now all malware works well as a normal user. Any data your normal user can access (local or on a remote CIFS server) is fair game for ransomware. Limiting administrator rights doesn't do anything to prevent the malware from getting at your data.

Persistence has moved to per-user, non-Administrator, too. Of course, all the various quasi-malicious customized versions of Chrome that end users inevitably install when they go searching for software to end-run their IT departments operates the same way.

I do think your daily driver Windows users shouldn't have administrator rights. It just isn't going to help much with malware.

I use physically separate boxes for my most sensitive activities (banking, mainly) but you could do nearly as well having separate non-admin Windows logons and compartmentalize your access to data you don't want ransomed. Isolation between different user accounts on Windows is actually fairly good. Just limit the common data the accounts can access.

Personally I've always wanted to use Qubes (and stop using physically separate machines) but I haven't taken them time to learn their contrivances.

Edit: I should have said "quasi-malicious customized versions of Chromium", not Chrome.

Re: Many ransomware strains will abort if they detect a Russian keyboard installed (2021)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if Ukraine has been removed from the exclusion list since then. A quick Google search says that the keyboards layouts are different from Russian keyboards.

I was thinking the same thing. Seems like the safest would be standard Russian keyboard layout (or maybe just adding the reg keys mentioned) Also makes me wonder if installing a specific Chinese keyboard could have the same effect (for Chinese made ransomware or maybe even North Korean). Or perhaps they do other checks ?

Could check month/date/time formats
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