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Ban this: Apple lists 8 Samsung devices it wants kept out of the US

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Re: Ban this: Apple lists 8 Samsung devices it wants kept out of the US

#11

The fact that the verdict is based on trivial patents is actually a good thing. Samsung can redesign the phone case and do trivial software changes and come up with 8 brand new phones officially declared to be comparable to the iphone. Am I the only one who thinks rounded edges are so 1950s ?

Am I the only one who thinks rounded edges are so 1950s ?

No, Dieter Rams probably agrees with you.

Re: Ban this: Apple lists 8 Samsung devices it wants kept out of the US

#12

The fact that the verdict is based on trivial patents is actually a good thing. Samsung can redesign the phone case and do trivial software changes and come up with 8 brand new phones officially declared to be comparable to the iphone. Am I the only one who thinks rounded edges are so 1950s ?

No, that will get them a phone that fails to infringe on these trivial patents. Surely Apple has more, and is filing for still more as we speak. As is every other player. The next victim may be Apple itself.

You can't win this game by avoiding infringement. It's never worked that way.

Re: Ban this: Apple lists 8 Samsung devices it wants kept out of the US

#14

The fact that the verdict is based on trivial patents is actually a good thing. Samsung can redesign the phone case and do trivial software changes and come up with 8 brand new phones officially declared to be comparable to the iphone. Am I the only one who thinks rounded edges are so 1950s ?

Am I the only one who thinks rounded edges are so 1950s

Absolutely. I never understood the people drooling over the Samsung Galaxy devices, they all look pretty ugly to me. I have an HTC One S which I consider to be marginally better, but the dream is a Nokia Lumia... running Android.

Re: Ban this: Apple lists 8 Samsung devices it wants kept out of the US

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If you're like me and want to actually compare the listed devices and patents... Design patent '305: Icon interface and grid layout Design patent '677: iPhone design, edge-to-edge glass and display borders, front speaker Utility patent '163: Tapping to zoom Utility patent '381: "Rubber-band effect," bouncing back when scrolling to end of a page Utility patent '915: "Pinch-to-zoom," distinguishing between single-touch…

I get the impression that Samsumg went through three phases in their response to the iPhone. 2007-2008: We need something like this iPhone thing. Let's use Android. 2009-2010: Hmm, Android isn't selling well enough. Let's make our phones look exactly like the iPhone. This is where the S and S2 came from. 2011 onward: Oh shit, Apple is suing us. Let's not be so obvious. Hence the S3.

Your timeline does not reflect the reality of a product development cycle. But to my untrained eye, the first Galaxy S looked most like the iPhone 3GS. The Galaxy S2 adopted a brand new design language (more business-y and kevlar-like, super thin, bump on the back for some models) and I believe it sold the most. I remember reading the specs for the S2 when it first came out and it just impressed me how significantly it outclassed all phones up to that date. It was a no-brainer phone to get at that time all on its own merits not as a cheap copy of something else.

Re: Ban this: Apple lists 8 Samsung devices it wants kept out of the US

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... and the classy thing for Apple to do now would be to say, "ok our point was made, keep selling your crappy old phones, just make sure any new ones don't infringe on our designs."

Jobs is dead and buried, let's bury his hatchet too, eh? This is all very tiresome. I'd love it if this became a widespread PR negative for Apple and became a pyrrhic victory for them.

Re: Ban this: Apple lists 8 Samsung devices it wants kept out of the US

#18

Doesn't Apple have a patent on multitouch in general? Remember when the first few versions of Android did everything not to step on those patents? When and why did that change?

And whatever happened to MS surface and any patents they held?

Re: Ban this: Apple lists 8 Samsung devices it wants kept out of the US

#19

These all seem to be such frivolous things in relation to the function of a computing device. They have nothing to do with capabilities or performance. Gimmicks. Just my personal opinion.

Yes, "gimmicks" that make billions upon billions of dollars.

Re: Ban this: Apple lists 8 Samsung devices it wants kept out of the US

#20
So here is a fun idea (that nobody will probably take up). In the U.S. you can sue for anything and any reason. If this happens, it would be an interesting exercise to sue Apple (large, class-action) for limiting the availability of marketplace options.
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