Live data from Hacker News

Diaspora Will Now Be A Community Project

blog.diasporafoundation.org

11–20 of 133 posts

Re: Diaspora Will Now Be A Community Project

#11

How about you guys open up registration on the main site? I registered, what, a year, two ago, and never was able to make an account. I signed up on another pod but it was never up to date or stable.

They said they did in the article. Is it still telling you to wait for another invite?

If you want to join another pod I'd recommend diasp.org if you are in the US.

Re: Diaspora Will Now Be A Community Project

#12
post #4
post #2

I'm really interested in what percent of Kickstarter projects end up abandoned, like Diaspora just was? Are there any statistics?

Well at least they stuck with it for 2 years, about as long as the money lasted.

Not exactly... http://thenextweb.com/socialmedia/2011/10/12/diaspora-asks-u...

Re: Diaspora Will Now Be A Community Project

#13
post #4
post #2

I'm really interested in what percent of Kickstarter projects end up abandoned, like Diaspora just was? Are there any statistics?

Well at least they stuck with it for 2 years, about as long as the money lasted.

Amazing if they actually made $200k last two years. I still can't believe people think this is a lot of money for a software project.

Re: Diaspora Will Now Be A Community Project

#15
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well at least they stuck with it for 2 years, about as long as the money lasted.

Amazing if they actually made $200k last two years. I still can't believe people think this is a lot of money for a software project.

Agreed. Four founders, that's $25k/year each for 2 years.

Re: Diaspora Will Now Be A Community Project

#16
For those up in arms about their 'abandonment' of Diaspora, I think they have toiled enough (2 years+) and deserve to move on. I doubt "own our lives" was part of the reward. I am even really amazed they could carry on even after one of them died.

Looking forward to how Mark.io eventually turns out. Best of luck buddies!

Re: Diaspora Will Now Be A Community Project

#17
TL;DR, "After years, and hundreds of thousands of your dollars, we couldn't do it. Can you code it, too?"

Don't mistake me; I'm a huge fan of what they were trying to do. I'm just really, deeply disappointed in their execution.

Re: Diaspora Will Now Be A Community Project

#18
So if this is, as some comments are suggesting, an indication that Diaspora is essentially dead… what can we learn from it? What did they do right, what did they do wrong? Is "distributed social networks" a fundamentally flawed idea, or was their implementation flawed?

I mean, they certainly did something right, given that G+ swiped liberally from Diaspora's design.

(What would a distributed social network that was dead easy to host look like? Imagine something like Diaspora that lives on your phone instead of on a server, for instance. Right now D* is a giant pile of Ruby, which means that interested amateurs are pretty much not gonna be able to play with it.)

Re: Diaspora Will Now Be A Community Project

#19

For those up in arms about their 'abandonment' of Diaspora, I think they have toiled enough (2 years+) and deserve to move on. I doubt "own our lives" was part of the reward. I am even really amazed they could carry on even after one of them died. Looking forward to how Mark.io eventually turns out. Best of luck buddies!

makr.io - the fact that it took me 7 tries to type it correctly in the URL bar & comment field leaves me hoping their #1 task is a better name.

Re: Diaspora Will Now Be A Community Project

#20
post #2

I'm really interested in what percent of Kickstarter projects end up abandoned, like Diaspora just was? Are there any statistics?

Lots of them do and quite a few flounder in the "I'm working on it, sorry!" phase. I backed a project in early 2010 (A documentary) and the total raised was $15k, initial estimates were a few months. It's approaching 2 and a half years, the guy still updates monthly with "I'm editing this piece!" and "I did this" and sometimes he'll even include an excuse and apology!

I said it last year and I'll say it again now, Kickstarter is going to feel a serious backlash the first time one of the high profile projects falls apart because Kickstarter act like this big wonderful place for nurturing these projects and a lot of people seem to believe Kickstarter has some sort of interest in helping these projects succeed, but they don't, they are nothing more than a funding platform.

The problem is unavoidable I guess; give creative people lots of money, no guidance or supervision with only the moral obligation to actually do what they promised and inevitably quite a few will quit, change their idea or under deliver.

A common thing I've read on reddit is people believing that either Kickstarter makes the project creators accountable for not delivering or that the project creators don't get the money until they deliver... I wonder how a lot of people would react if they realised all they're paying for is a promise.

(oh and to clarify, I really do love Kickstarter and hope they continue to do what they're doing, but I can't help but disagree with their (potentially necessary) approach to projects after they've finished getting funded -- maybe they're working to solve this)

---

I backed a project in May 2011 called "MemeFactory Writes A Book", billed as a book about internet culture. The idea was cute and I wanted a t-shirt so I backed it with $100. Now a year and a third later they've "changed direction" because their original idea "wasn't what they thought it would be" so here I am with $100 in a project that is never going to happen and instead I'm waiting on a new project... they also still didn't deliver my t-shirt. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rugnetta/memefactory-wri...

Another project that I didn't back but I'm aware of is by a Youtube video creator called Bashurverse, the summary is: "Donate to us to go to a convention and we'll make a documentary", they got $4k and went to the convention... and apparently got the $4k scammed from them by an evil company... so now they've not delivered anything and the people that backed them are left with nothing and thinking "...oh". http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/bashcraft/bashcraft-the-...

Will kickstarter do anything? Nope. Do people know that? Nope, they think accountability exists. When I now back a kickstarter project it's "I guess this would be nice to have, I'll send some money and maybe I get it, if not then whatever." instead of "holy crap this is amazing, I'll stick in as much as I can I can't wait!" which is how it should be.

Post reply on HN