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Berkshire Hathaway Now Pays 5% of All Corporate Income Taxes in America

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Re: Berkshire Hathaway Now Pays 5% of All Corporate Income Taxes in America

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I always find "fair share" to be an odd argument. Who decides what's a fair share?

It means they're not exercising loopholes and legal sleight of hand to pay less.

Damn, people who pay into their 401Ks are fucking evil.

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Wow and they still make money despite paying their fair share. Who would have ever thought.

I always find "fair share" to be an odd argument. Who decides what's a fair share?

Fair means the same playing field, the same rules, the same consistent outcomes from all the corporations subject to these laws and regulations, and not just one of them who does the right thing. Exercizing loopholes is the opposite of fair. It puts those with the best cheating strategies ahead of those who play by the rules. Because you can catch the ref with his back turned doesn't make you a fair player.

Re: Berkshire Hathaway Now Pays 5% of All Corporate Income Taxes in America

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Nit from the end-note: > On the date of publication, Caleb Naysmith did not have (either directly or indirectly) positions in any of the securities mentioned in this article. Hard to imagine someone who invests would have no indirect positions in BRK. Any broad-market ETF would have substantial exposure.

If you click through to the fine print, it says, "THIS DISCLOSURE POLICY DOES NOT EXTEND TO BROAD-BASED ETFS / ETPS OR MUTUAL FUND HOLDINGS."

Re: Berkshire Hathaway Now Pays 5% of All Corporate Income Taxes in America

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always find "fair share" to be an odd argument. Who decides what's a fair share?

It means they're not exercising loopholes and legal sleight of hand to pay less.

What counts as a loophole though? IRA, almost by design is a way to shelter your investments from taxes. Is it a loophole to put your investments in an IRA to avoid taxes? What about when Peter Thiel puts his paypal stock in an IRA, and paid no taxes on his paypal exit?

Re: Berkshire Hathaway Now Pays 5% of All Corporate Income Taxes in America

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always find "fair share" to be an odd argument. Who decides what's a fair share?

Fair means the same playing field, the same rules, the same consistent outcomes from all the corporations subject to these laws and regulations, and not just one of them who does the right thing. Exercizing loopholes is the opposite of fair. It puts those with the best cheating strategies ahead of those who play by the rules. Because you can catch the ref with his back turned doesn't make you a fair player.

What is a loophole? Legally avoiding taxes isn't cheating.

What you're describing is tax fraud, and that's different from corporations using legal strategies to mitigate their tax burdens.

Re: Berkshire Hathaway Now Pays 5% of All Corporate Income Taxes in America

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The corporate tax system is so complex it seems impossible to actually figure out what that 5% means though. e.g. They could be highly concentrated in industries where tax accounting tricks are too hard to do effectively.

Insurance. It’s pure inflow vs. outflow margin. There’s not a lot of capital or operating expense to invest in relative to the massive cash flows.

Re: Berkshire Hathaway Now Pays 5% of All Corporate Income Taxes in America

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It means they're not exercising loopholes and legal sleight of hand to pay less.

What counts as a loophole though? IRA, almost by design is a way to shelter your investments from taxes. Is it a loophole to put your investments in an IRA to avoid taxes? What about when Peter Thiel puts his paypal stock in an IRA, and paid no taxes on his paypal exit?

Can you honestly say when the people were drafting how IRAs would work they were thinking this as an intended use-case?

Re: Berkshire Hathaway Now Pays 5% of All Corporate Income Taxes in America

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Wow and they still make money despite paying their fair share. Who would have ever thought.

But corporate taxes are on profit, not revenue, so almost by definition any company that "paying their fair share" is "still makes money".

Imagine if a household was only taxed on the money they managed to put away in savings and could count housing expenses, food expenses, education costs, healthcare, entertainment, vacations, vehicle purchases, etc. 100% against their income.
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