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Apple Research unearthed forgotten AI technique and using it to generate images

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Re: Apple Research unearthed forgotten AI technique and using it to generate images

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Apple AI team keeps going against the bitter lesson and focusing on small on-device models. Let's see how this would turn out in longterm.

"""The bitter lesson""" is how you get the current swath of massively unprofitable AI companies that are competing with each other over who can lose money faster.

I can't tell if you're perpetuating the myth that these companies are losing money on their paid offerings, or just overestimating how much money they lose on their free offerings.

Re: Apple Research unearthed forgotten AI technique and using it to generate images

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Apple AI team keeps going against the bitter lesson and focusing on small on-device models. Let's see how this would turn out in longterm.

somewhat hard to say how the cards fall when the cost of 'intelligence' is coming down 1000x year over year while at the same time compute continues to scale. the bet should be made on both sides probably

10x year over year, not 1000x, right? The 1000x is from this 10x observation having held for 3 years.

Re: Apple Research unearthed forgotten AI technique and using it to generate images

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Forgotten from like 2021? NVAE[1] was a great paper but maybe four years is long enough to be forgotten in the AI space? shrug 1. NVAE: A Deep Hierarchical Variational Autoencoder https://arxiv.org/pdf/2007.03898

They are both variational inference, but Normalizing Flow (NF) is not VAE.

Re: Apple Research unearthed forgotten AI technique and using it to generate images

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I find it fascinating that Apple-centric media sites are stretching so much to position the company in the AI race. The title is meant to say that Apple found something unique that other people missed, when the simplest explanation is they started working on this a while back (2021 paper, afterall) and just released it.

A more accurate headline would be - Apple starting to create images using 4 year old techniques.

Re: Apple Research unearthed forgotten AI technique and using it to generate images

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This subject is fascinating and the article is informative, but I wish that HN had a button like "flag", but specific for articles that seems written by AI (well at least the section "How STARFlow compares with OpenAI’s 4o image generator" sounds like it)

It reads like the work of a professional writer who uses a handful of variant sentence structures and conventions to quickly write an article. That’s what professional writers are trained to do.

Re: Apple Research unearthed forgotten AI technique and using it to generate images

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I find it fascinating that Apple-centric media sites are stretching so much to position the company in the AI race. The title is meant to say that Apple found something unique that other people missed, when the simplest explanation is they started working on this a while back (2021 paper, afterall) and just released it. A more accurate headline would be - Apple starting to create images using 4 year old techniques.

This „4 year old technique“ apparently could give Apple an edge for on-device workloads.

> short: both Apple and OpenAI are moving beyond diffusion, but while OpenAI is building for its data centers, Apple is clearly building for our pockets.

Re: Apple Research unearthed forgotten AI technique and using it to generate images

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Forgotten from like 2021? NVAE[1] was a great paper but maybe four years is long enough to be forgotten in the AI space? shrug 1. NVAE: A Deep Hierarchical Variational Autoencoder https://arxiv.org/pdf/2007.03898

They are both variational inference, but Normalizing Flow (NF) is not VAE.

If you read the paper, you'll find "More Expressive Approximate Posteriors with Normalizing Flows" is in the methods section. The authors are in fact using (inverse) normalizing flows within the context of VAEs.

The appendix goes on to explain, "We apply simple volume-preserving normalizing flows of the form z′ = z + b(z) to the samples generated by the encoder at each level".

Re: Apple Research unearthed forgotten AI technique and using it to generate images

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I find it fascinating that Apple-centric media sites are stretching so much to position the company in the AI race. The title is meant to say that Apple found something unique that other people missed, when the simplest explanation is they started working on this a while back (2021 paper, afterall) and just released it. A more accurate headline would be - Apple starting to create images using 4 year old techniques.

> I find it fascinating that Apple-centric media sites are stretching so much to position the company in the AI race.

A glance through the comments also shows HNers doing their best too. The mind still boggles as to why this site is so willing to perform mental gymnastics for a corporate.

Re: Apple Research unearthed forgotten AI technique and using it to generate images

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I find it fascinating that Apple-centric media sites are stretching so much to position the company in the AI race. The title is meant to say that Apple found something unique that other people missed, when the simplest explanation is they started working on this a while back (2021 paper, afterall) and just released it. A more accurate headline would be - Apple starting to create images using 4 year old techniques.

That site's target market is what we know as "Apple fanboys". I'm not one to consider 9to5 serious journalism (nor even worthy to post in HN), but even those publications that I consider serious are businesses, too, and need to pander to their markets in order to make money.
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