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The role of the University is to resist AI

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Re: The role of the University is to resist AI

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Post by rob_c »

sublimefire wrote: post #9

This post is close to pure waffle. Yes there are parts of common sense but just to give some example “spice” thrown in amongst other lines: > Deep learning has historical and epistemological connections to eugenics through its mathematics, its metrics and through concepts like AGI, and we shouldn't be surprised if and when it gets applied in education to weed out 'useless learners'. It might be partially correct but…

> This post is close to pure waffle

Frankly an LLM would have done a better job and been more succinct.

Re: The role of the University is to resist AI

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Post by rightbyte »

_0ffh wrote: post #6

Schools in general are doomed to complete obsolescence now, as every kid can have their own personal AI tutor. Doesn't look much better for universities. Outside of lab work and testing, there is just no further need for them. There, I said it.

The main benefit of uni studies is nagging me to learn stuff. There, I said it.

Re: The role of the University is to resist AI

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Post by bravesoul2 »

rob_c wrote: post #10
_0ffh wrote: post #6

Schools in general are doomed to complete obsolescence now, as every kid can have their own personal AI tutor. Doesn't look much better for universities. Outside of lab work and testing, there is just no further need for them. There, I said it.

That's what people said about Google. Don't worry the worthwhile universities aren't going anywhere.

Of credentialism means nothing and the world turns to meritocracy most of us reading this now are doomed!

I tend to thing that universities will be OK

Even in subjects that just need a mind and maybe a computer like mathematics and computer science.

Re: The role of the University is to resist AI

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Post by squigz »

rob_c wrote: post #4
r0x0r007 wrote: post #3

Students are like the electrical current, given the path with least resistance they will follow it(as with most of people). Cutting off such a path is NP hard to do at scale IMO. But definitely agree on the idea of the article.

A damning statement of the masses. How about LLM do away with the pointless painful and thankless brute forcing of huge databases of physical paper to find the key piece of information you want to check something against. Teaching that, that is what academic study is leads to the misconception that writing enough about something makes it valid. A serious problem in many of the areas of new academic prostration. I'd s…

> frankly we see what damage the internet did to society after people said this in the 90s

Isn't ignoring the incredible good the Internet has done exactly what you're advocating against with regards to LLMs?

Yes, new technology that impacts fundamental aspects of our society will have negative side effects that we will have to adapt to and solve - but on the whole, I think the Internet has produced far more good in the world than otherwise. We'll see how LLMs pan out, but I suspect it'll play out similarly.

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Post by bobcostas55 »

sublimefire wrote: post #9

This post is close to pure waffle. Yes there are parts of common sense but just to give some example “spice” thrown in amongst other lines: > Deep learning has historical and epistemological connections to eugenics through its mathematics, its metrics and through concepts like AGI, and we shouldn't be surprised if and when it gets applied in education to weed out 'useless learners'. It might be partially correct but…

It's bad on purpose to make you click.

Re: The role of the University is to resist AI

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Post by squigz »

_0ffh wrote: post #6

Schools in general are doomed to complete obsolescence now, as every kid can have their own personal AI tutor. Doesn't look much better for universities. Outside of lab work and testing, there is just no further need for them. There, I said it.

It's been possible for a very long time to try to learn things yourself - and I don't just mean the courses and other resources available online these days; one could always have went to a library and learned that way.

The thing is, people still went to school. Why is that, do you think?

Re: The role of the University is to resist AI

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Post by hshdhdhj4444 »

_0ffh wrote: post #6

Schools in general are doomed to complete obsolescence now, as every kid can have their own personal AI tutor. Doesn't look much better for universities. Outside of lab work and testing, there is just no further need for them. There, I said it.

If this is true then why have education at all?

If AI is the equivalent of a college instructor, just deploy AI everywhere instead of wasting time and energy teaching humans, a fairly limited resource?

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